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| Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: kauai 
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				3.0 motor idle problems and miss fire issues
			 
			aloha ...just got  the  3.0 motor  back in my  82 911sc....a new re-built fuel distributor...injectors  are  clean  and  working  properly... cold  stat  valve (  after  5  replacements )  is working  properly.... here is  the  question.... if a proper  fuel  ratio on the  fuel distributor and  proper  timing   st the  distributor  the   car   idle  is  racing  around  2300 rpm  at  start up....so  bring the   idle  down we   had  to lean  out the  fuel  distributor  and   re-tard  the  timing.... so when  we   start motor  it   will just idle..... any  throttle  added  it  pops due  to  wrong timing  and  lack of  gas... ( leaned  out ).. the    symptons i assumed  were  a  air  leak... or ... vacome  leak  somewhere .....we  ran  a  series of  test with  accetalean  gas  all  aroung  the  motor.... no   change  in the  idle except  at  the  air sensory  plate  which made  the  idle  increase.... my  question is....are  there  different  areas  i  should be looking at for  a  vacume or  air  leak ??? if  i  have  proper  fuel adjustment  and  correct  timing  the  motor  is  far  too high of  idle  ... however ...the  motor   just  screams  with  power and  is  calling  me  to  go  for  a  rocket  ride.... any  and  all  ideas  are  appreciated.... it  has  been one  year  and  i  still haven't  done  a  test  ride  on my  car..... many  thanks... michael  808-346-5493...car  has  77k original miles  and  plates  are  still in  storage  for  21  years ....
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|  02-26-2013, 02:04 PM | 
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			Why not just turn down the idle scew? Why did you you have to lean out the fuel and retard the timing to get the idle down? Check: Intake gaskets Rubber intake sleeves Airbox leak? Pop- Off Valve installed correctly? What happens when you remove the oil cap, does the idle drop? If there is no change, then it is likely a vacuum leak, or it could just be that your idle is to high to make a diifference. 
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|  02-26-2013, 02:11 PM | 
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| Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: kauai 
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			aloha ...we  did  turn  the  idle  screw down..it  wasn't  enough to drop the rpms  to 1000... i am still trying to get my mechanic  ( on  different island ) to  reply  as  i  have moved  from oahu  back  to kauai... i  got  to get tjhis  car  running  right  to ship it  to the  mainland....and  drive it...as  it  is  too small island  here with limited open  road...
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|  02-26-2013, 02:22 PM | 
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			What are your fuel pressures for system, cold, and warm running? Is your AAR system in tact and leak free? The piping or rubber pieces for the cold start supplemental air could have a big leak in it.  One way to test it is to remove the hose at the fitting by the CSV and start the car, idle should be high (2000 rpm). Then slowly close off the hole at the base of the intake and the idle should drop. If that works, you've found the source of unmetered air. | ||
|  02-26-2013, 02:45 PM | 
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			Disconnect the throttle linkage and try adjusting the idle screw again.
		 
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|  02-26-2013, 03:50 PM | 
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			vacuum advance sticking is always possible. How did you set the timing?
		 
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|  02-27-2013, 03:49 AM | 
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| Fleabit peanut monkey | Quote: 
 If the idle screw is all the way in the engine should be barely spinning or die. Otherwise vacuum leak/false air. Did you try some of the ideas offered? e.g., remove the oil cap? 
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|  02-27-2013, 07:08 AM | 
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			Make sure you vac lines on the cruise control cannister are tight.One line also goes to the brake booster. I had an engine that started /ran perfect. after the cruise cannister was taken off (sold) the two lines were just hanging there. car started but not instantly and then reved at +2000RPM and popped when cold under light accel pressure. | ||
|  02-27-2013, 07:37 AM | 
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| ROW '78 911 Targa | 
			As you can tell by the multiple possible solutions, you really need to confirm the proper functionality of each sub system attached to the CIS.
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|  02-27-2013, 08:07 AM | 
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