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Everyone restores Fuchs, What about my SuperCups?

My Kinesis SuperCups are super sweet but it looks like the PO of my car never, ever, ever washed them. Ever.

SO, I washed them with dish soap. Gads, was that bad? Well, it helped. But the inner barrels aren't even close to clean. They aren't black anymore but they are a long way from silver, more kinda permanent brown if you want to know. Silly me, I want them CLEAN. What's next in the arms race?

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First wheel cleaner didn't touch it.
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Facto AT-30 from http:Cleaning Supplies from Swish Quality Cleaning Products (Canada/US/Europe)

Less than $5 a Liter...

Check this thread to see what it can do:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/cleaning-detailing-polishing/550748-best-cleaner-bar-none.html
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Here's the problem, we've all seen this kind of pain before...

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Well, that looks like good stuff.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/cleaning-detailing-polishing/550748-best-cleaner-bar-none.html



I can't see where it is available south of the border here in the motherland. I also wonder about it on my fancy pants wheel surfaces.
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I restore 3 piece wheels every day. I usually soak with simple green and then use the corse steel wool until I start seeing bare aluminum. It is tough to get the inner rims looking better without a great deal of work. Sometimes I even use 100 grit sandpaper to break down the grime and get to bare metal. When I get to bare metal I usually prime/sand/prime/sand and finally paint the inner rims. What do the faces look like? Are they 17" or 18" wheels? Are they straight/round? jdorociak@gmail.com jim
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Sometimes I even use 100 grit sandpaper to break down the grime and get to bare metal. When I get to bare metal I usually prime/sand/prime/sand and finally paint the inner rims. jdorociak@gmail.com jim
100 grit sounds pretty effective, I might be a timid for that on alloy but it is an inner barrel so it's not as important.

I've heard of people leaving the Simple Green on for too long and wishing they had spent the day doing something a bit less adventurous like watching golf.

What kind of soak time are you comfortable with?
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Lots of dirt in the water, you'd think I had made progress but check the wheel, still lots on the rim.


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The centers clean up much easier for some reason.
Tooth brush and sponge did a lot on the back of the wheel center.

Scotchbrite pad, elbow grease, and nylon scrub brush had limited effect on the barrel though.

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Answering your question:
Fronts/faces are not too bad. They need help but they have cleaned up reasonably. So who cares about the inner barrels/ backs, eh?


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... I can't see where it is available south of the border here in the motherland. I also wonder about it on my fancy pants wheel surfaces.
Not really wide spread but available in the North East and at a cheaper price than ours...

Contact them as they might ship... Really worth the effort to get it.

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I restore 3 piece wheels every day. I usually soak with simple green and then use the corse steel wool ... Are they straight/round? jdorociak@gmail.com jim
Steel wool or steel alternative?

Pretty round. They drive fine but maybe I should check them.
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When I am doing them I disassemble the wheels, and sand/polish the outer rims, paint the centers, and then sand/primer/paint the inner rims. jim [email]jdorociak@gmail.com

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I have had good luck with Sonax wheel cleaner, some scotch brite and then pressure washer.
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I also wonder about it on my fancy pants wheel surfaces.
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Also helps to use a clay bar.
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I've cleaned many wheels, best thing is lacquer thinner to get the brake dust and dirt off, then use other products.

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When I am doing them I disassemble the wheels, and sand/polish the outer rims, paint the centers, and then sand/primer/paint the inner rims. jim [email]jdorociak@gmail.com


Very nice Jim.
What do you do with the fasteners?
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I've had good luck removing nasty/stubborn brake dust/debris with denatured alcohol.

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