Ok...I know its not a 911 but at the old Bug In in the 70s-80s there was an engine pull contest,

You started with a running VW bug , pull the engine , move it away from the car then re-install it , start it up and drive it 10-20 feet across the "finish" line

total time with 2 people .......less than 5 minutes !

25 minutes on an SC with a lift.

Hey guys, here what i've fund - 1 minute and 6 seconds for the fastest VW Engine exchange - Fastest VW Beetle engine swap I guess after all, Porsche has designed a good car...

That is CRAZY!!!! --- it takes me longer to blink my eyes :eek:

Hey Wayne, 10 hours here Engine Drop looks like a century.....

15 mins is a stretch. But the last guys post was funny.

VW Beetle Engine change Guiness world record - YouTube for video of the Volkswagen feat. That was very impressive, although not as interesting to watch as these (off-topic, I admit) guys:

Rebuild a Jeep under 4 minutes - YouTube

Now, back to the topic, who has record times for a Carrera 4? :)

Gosh...I'd really like to learn how to do this. My car doesn't need it (yet). But would like to learn.

3 years
 

Three years and it still isn`t dropped. Still reading up on it :D it doesn't`t use oil and all is running well ,so don`t touch what is not broken (Yet).

15 years ago at the track, I shredded a clutch disc.

With another's help, I removed the engine (2.7 MFI), replaced the disc and reinstalled the engine all in about 3 hrs time.
Made the 2nd practice session that morning.

Very satisfying, but very tired after that!

Those were the days....
:rolleyes:

Well it's just an old manual lift and fits exactly between the two bumperettes
of the 964RS rear bumper :)

Something like this:

http://www.abcoffice.com/images/tp2200_large.jpg

We place wooden blocks between the engine and the forks to get the angle
to remove the engine.

works on 912's too :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps4ac985fa.jpg

1966 912, in my driveway with a floor jack, engine and trans out in 45 minutes. Did it twice in a week. Of course, I was 30 years younger then!

Frank

About 30 minutes...but its a 935. No jacking the car up, just remove the access panel where the rear seat used to be, disconnect the drive shafts, tranny, linkage, throttle, fuel, etc, pull the tail off, unbolt the cross member and slide everything out the back on a pallet jack. race cars are so much easier to work on.

Wow, nice... How did you do it so you can unbolt the cross member?
Can you PM or post some pics?

by saying "unbolt the cross member" I met removing part circled in white on picture (sorry not the best pic that I could find quick).

Am I correct?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376056367.jpg

Back in the 70s my brother wanted to change the cam in his VW camper. He drove it to the shop, dropped the engine, took it completely apart to get to the cam. Drop in the new cam and build the engine. He never hurried and even stopped for lunch. He drove home that same day in time for dinner. He did all the work by himself.

The problem i see with engine removal if you dont have a lift is getting the back end high enough to get the engine under the back bumper .. and if you do the car is at such an extreme angle that putting the engine back or even taking it out might be tough ..

Do you guys remove the rear bumper ? and if not is r/r more difficult because of the angle of the car ?

what do you mean "rear bumper" ? is this part circled on red car pic above?

Yes, cut out that part of the chassis and replace it with a tubular cross member thats bolted to the frame rails. supports the engine and everything slides right out the back!

What? "Farm rails"?

Guess Frame Rails ;)

I removed and installed the engine without removing the bumper.
I jacked the car as high as I could after I unbolted the mounts. Once the fan cleared I pulled the motor out.
On installation once I raised the car I slid the engine in place then lowered the car. Then all I had to do was raise the motor into place.

Presuming you pulling it out with tranny, right? - never mind should look the pics, sorry
Do you leave tranny mounts on? - never mind should look the pics, sorry

also, do you loose roll bar?

thank you.

It sounds more intimidating than it is. Dropping the engine is actually pretty easy. Your first time estimate about 4 hours to take your time and being really careful. This is doing it alone. I have done it now 3 times. Now, depending on if I remember to drain the oil first it'll take about 1 to 2 hours out. I think that last time was an hour. This is leaving the tranny on. I haven't done it without taking out the tranny.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/664950-1976-911s-garage-find-road-14.html#post7279567
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361138853.jpg

back in takes a little more tome but not much, maybe 30 minutes more....2 hours.

I should mention I have a lift that is very slow but easy to work with.

Do yourself a favor, avoid short cuts. If you think you might be able to get away with not removing something think again, there are no good short cuts. I haved tried to talk myself into thinking I can drop it without removing the exhaust and am just kidding myself. I also have to remove the engine tins as it is a tight fit between my rails.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1362263341.jpg

45 min, euro 930 no Ac, but with a lift

I see so many different methods, most of them Engine/tranny comes together.

Did someone removed JUST the engine quickly? As Wayne shows on Pelican Tech article.

Thank you,

added video from youtube, to the 1st post, JUST FYI...

Roll bar??

I met to say anti-roll:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376321125.jpg

...and I was looking forward to somebody else buying me a bagel!

BTW; I always like to budget a little more than twice removal time to do the install. It takes far longer to add 10 qts of oil, than to drain 10 quarts! It also takes longer to adjust the clutch than to disconnect the cable. Longer to use a torque wrench to tighten fasteners, than an impact wrench to loosen them. And I include cleaning all fasteners, and tools used for removal, as install time.

You have forgotten the MOST important time... the BEER TIME... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/beerchug.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/pint1.gif

I don't remember but I may have removed it.

Jep, it has to come off.

Yes, you have to completely remove it. If you only want to lower the engine a few inches, you can get away with only removing the 4 bolts and let it hang. If you are removing the engine, you would need to remove the cotter pin and yank this out.

So when you guys want to time removing an engine on a calendar instead of a stop watch, Try something like a 996 or 997 Tiptronic Turbo w/4wd. That's when beer celebration really tastes sweet.

here more info just FYI.. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/765934-engine-drop-question-re-tranny-disconnection.html PLUS this http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/748639-evolution-carrera-rst-2.html#post7443254

Here is how Magnus Walker did it http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/638194-porsche-collection-out-control-hobby-100.html#post7061799

here is another way to R&R motor http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/768711-i-love-my-lift-tables.html

My friend's lift 1 Hr to remove, 2 Hr to install. many hours to do the complete service

regards

You guys are talking about an hour maybe two and I'm about to do this for the first time and nervous as hell about doing it.

Make a check list and there are checklist on the forum as well in the 101 projects book. Take your time and allow about 4 hrs start to finish. You'll be done before you know it.

Would anyone recommend putting the engine back in without the fan and carb's etc. to save having to lift the car so high, or will it be too hard to install all the ancillaries once the engine is in?

TIA