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donporfi 09-22-2013 08:23 AM

Now I found a way of using a jumper where it is not exposed, very similar to the original fuse block
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379866787.jpg

Use a jumper like this one, of the proper thickness , the originals are about 0.025 inch thick about 22gage, to be safe a 20 gage would be better.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379866422.jpg

Screw this jumper from the underside of the fuseblock
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379866562.jpg

The fuse block will look like this
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379866664.jpg

Use a nut and a washer to lock the wire
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379866710.jpg

donporfi 09-22-2013 08:27 AM

A comparison of the size and height of the original fuseblock and the atc/ato one

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379867166.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379867250.jpg

donporfi 09-22-2013 08:37 AM

Other way to use a jumper that is not exposed
Use a jumper like this one of the proper thickness 22 or 20 gage.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379867510.jpg

File this part from the upper arrows to the lower arrows.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379867745.jpg

Put the jumper and should lok like this
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379867834.jpg

donporfi 09-22-2013 01:26 PM

I fabricated a jumper with a thickness of 0.035 inch and tried it in the fuseblock.
But I found that there is an interference and it will not close.
This is the jumper I fabricated
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379884802.jpg

Installed looks like this
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379884877.jpg

And I think the interference is in this area
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379885062.jpg

I made a notch and it did not work, I will keep trying to solve this.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379885120.jpg

Uwon 09-22-2013 02:02 PM

Great ideas and great thread guys. I am going to incorporate this in to my RST build.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/748639-evolution-carrera-rst.html
Thanks and cheers,

Algernon 09-22-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targa44 (Post 7668076)
Would those not raise the height of the panel and impact closing your cover?

No! The new fuses are the highest item by far, and the cover still (just) closes. See post #42

Algernon 09-22-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donporfi (Post 7668843)
I fabricated a jumper with a thickness of 0.035 inch and tried it in the fuseblock.
But I found that there is an interference and it will not close.
This is the jumper I fabricated
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379884802.jpg

Donporfi,
This looks really neat and 0.2 inches width should handle 25A current load!
Did you try it on the top side? If so, you could dispense with the square nuts?
This would look like the most elegant solution, even having to remove the fillets between adjacent screws.
Porwolf,
those Allied/Molex links are only rated at 15A - pity!

porwolf 09-22-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algernon (Post 7668983)
..........Porwolf, those Allied/Molex links are only rated at 15A - pity!

Well, if they would fit you could always double them up, on top of each other.

targa44 09-22-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algernon (Post 7668983)
Porwolf,
those Allied/Molex links are only rated at 15A - pity!

Grainger has them at 30A

timmy2 09-22-2013 08:02 PM

Link?
Quote:

<div class="pre-quote">
Quote de <strong>Algernon</strong>
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<div class="post-quote">
<div style="font-style:italic">Porwolf,<br>
those Allied/Molex links are only rated at 15A - pity!</div>
</div>Grainger has them at 30A

donporfi 09-22-2013 09:01 PM

The problem with stacking them up is that you could end with 4 jumpers in one screw. If you check there is one place where four spaces are linked together, that would mean that in the middle two spaces you would have four jumpers. Same problem where there are three linked together.

timmy2 09-22-2013 09:43 PM

Cut these down to suit for as many positions as needed. There is plenty of room in this installation for jumpers that are visible.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379914855.jpg



600RJ 06 - MARATHON - TERMINAL BLOCK JUMPER, 6WAY, 9 | Newark

GaryR 09-23-2013 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmy2 (Post 7669412)
Cut these down to suit for as many positions as needed. There is plenty of room in this installation for jumpers that are visible.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379914855.jpg



600RJ 06 - MARATHON - TERMINAL BLOCK JUMPER, 6WAY, 9 | Newark

Those are 15A also.

donporfi 09-23-2013 07:14 AM

timmy2
Those will not fit this type of fuse block.
The pitch spacing of the fuse block is aprox. 12 mm, the Marathon jumpers have a 9.5mm pitch spacing. And between each three blocks the spacing is different about 11mm.
But keep looking, probably with the help of everybody interested we will find a suitable solution.

GaryR 09-23-2013 07:31 AM

Once someone comes up with a good way to do this they can make up a bunch that are plug-n-play and sell them as kits!
:D

Algernon 09-23-2013 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryR (Post 7669716)
Once someone comes up with a good way to do this they can make up a bunch that are plug-n-play and sell them as kits!
:D

The reason I started this post was not to make money, but help Pelicans make a cheap and easy upgrade to improve reliability of the aging fuse holders, without resorting to expensive kits.
I never expected this level of interest, but if we can collectively find an optimal solution, we all gain!

GaryR 09-23-2013 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algernon (Post 7669743)
The reason I started this post was not to make money, but help Pelicans make a cheap and easy upgrade to improve reliability of the aging fuse holders, without resorting to expensive kits.
I never expected this level of interest, but if we can collectively find an optimal solution, we all gain!

Did not mean it any other way, just see an opportunity for one of our talented guys to do something that benefits us all and make a couple dollars too! I for one would pay double for the blocks if they were just an unhook/rehook the wires proposition! We are only talking about a $75(?) kit that would not only update the electrical system but also add spare fuses for things like headlight relays, etc.

porwolf 09-23-2013 11:10 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379963398.jpg

Then take 2 to double up.

porwolf 09-23-2013 11:14 AM

donporfi, where did you get your "Made in USA" terminal blocks?

donporfi 09-23-2013 02:43 PM

Bought those here
Fuse Blocks - Power


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