First time engine drop and Uwanna works for scotch

[tirwin]

I had been putting this off for far too long. Today was the day.

We have a local car show -- Caffeine and Octane -- that got a little too big for me. I went to a new offshoot a couple of months ago and ran into some fellow Pelicans. Uwanna (Grant) was among them. He graciously volunteered his time to come over and help a newbie like me. I am eternally grateful. It is so much easier going through this with someone else.

Here is how things looked at 8am this morning.


I took car of the easy parts: disconnected the battery, drain the oil, disconnect the CDI, disconnect the fuel lines, shift coupler, etc.

Grant showed up with his 6-ton jack stands and the best engine drop gadget you've ever seen.

Here we are testing the fit.



This red platform is shaped like a "U" and it is perfect for sliding a jack under.

[tirwin]

We removed the bumper. Not a big deal and you don't have to get the car that high.


I needed a set of Allen sockets so we made a quick run to Harbor Freight. The throttle linkage put up an unusual fight and the hard oil line was a fight but we eventually prevailed without a lot of drama.

[tirwin]

And the obligatory victory photos:

Me:


I had to do something to say thanks, so.... McCallen!



I can't thank Grant enough for his help and sage wisdom! I might could've done it by myself but it sure wouldn't have gone as smooth and I probably would've botched something really good. That's why this forum is awesome.

[uwanna]

Many thanks Tim for the McCallan Single Malt, what a way to end the day, I'll be sipping tonight!

Had a real nice day pulling the motor out of your beautiful '83SC. Folks this car is one
of the nicest SC's I've seen in a long time! It's rewarding to me to share my forty plus
years 911 experience with someone with an open mind who is eager to learn.

Started the Odyssey about 11AM or so, and with a tool run/lunch break, we had the
motor on the ground between 3 to 4PM. Not record time but respectable.

Down the road, when Tim is through with family vacay etc, we're loading up my
high pressure HOT steam cleaner and hauling it to his house and will make the motor/trans and the under carriage look as pristine as the outside looks. Then Tim can undertake his complete suspension redo with the big box full of goodies he has from Chuck Moreland, not to mention the other box full of new AC goodies from our friend Mr Charlie the Kuehl AC guy.

Guy's, let me tell you, when Tim is done with this job, he'll have the finest SC in town, and Atlanta is a big town!

Grant

EDIT: Just one question, who the hell is that old geezer in the last pic?

[JJ 911SC]

Good works guys so have a cold one before having a shot or two of MSM

[Bill Douglas]

Well done Guys!

What's wrong with the motor? It looks nice and clean compared with what I'm used to LOL. And I love the car.

[nicfranc]

I Quit.

[tirwin]

Originally Posted by nicfranc

I Quit.

Nic,

I just read through your drop thread. You got the engine down BY YOURSELF and lived to tell the tale. Nothing wrong with that no matter how long it took. If Grant wasn't willing to come over and share his expertise, well my engine would still be in the car. When you're by yourself all you can think of sometimes it not screwing up. Having a seasoned veteran help gives peace of mind and you it takes half the time.

I did not have a set of Allen sockets and removing the Allen's on the axles shafts was going to take forever so we went to HF and got some lunch. Also got a set of really long 3/8's extensions. Took 5 minutes to do the job when we got back.

Here's the great thing about having two people. Somebody is always catching mistakes. I missed a fuel line disconnect and fortunately Grant saw it before we started actually lowering the engine. I had made a checklist and at one point Grant said "I'm sure glad you made that list or we would've forgotten so and so..." It is easy to forget stuff even if you've done it a bunch of times. It's not a race. Getting the job done well and living to tell the tale is the important part. You're not on a pit crew for a race team.

I need to get a better pic of Grant's setup. It makes all the difference in the world.

One thing I forgot to note. Grant suggested we put the 6-tonners inboard on the torsion tube. They are not in the way at all and to me it feels safer. I don't know if it really is or not but it sure feels that way.

[tirwin]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Well done Guys!

What's wrong with the motor? It looks nice and clean compared with what I'm used to LOL. And I love the car.

Thanks, Bill!

Nothing really major. Lots of little things that are much easier with engine out, and a few things that require the engine out.

Here's the list so far:

- Address the triangle of death
- replace engine sound pad
- replace injectors, o-rings and sleeves
- oil leak in hard line going to the thermostat (not sure yet I'm going to touch this one)
- replace old vac lines
- check CIS stuff that is normally hard to get to
- throttle linkage bushing is shot (gone actually)
- new torsion bars (21/28)
- replace A/C lines with barrier hose, install "dual Kuehl" condensers, receiver drier, compressor and evap
- sway bar bushings
- re-valve Bilsteins (they're shot)
- motor and transmission mounts
- polybronze spring plate bearings
- front ball joints
- control arms bushings
- turbo tie rods/bump steer kit
- clean up starter terminal corrosion
- replace transmission shaft end seal
- check clutch

[mreid]

Originally Posted by nicfranc

I Quit.

THERE'S NO QUITTING IN PORSCHE OWNERSHIP!!!

Now hit the showers and quit yer bichin'!


Great job and excellent team work!

[IXjamesXI]

So Grant.. What kind of steam cleaner have you got? Looking for a recommendation as I would like to get one for p-car cleanup chores.

[wrxnofx]

So awesome that you had a veteran there to help and to teach. Very jealous. Congrats. Uwanna - nice job transferring the knowledge!

[nicfranc]

Originally Posted by tirwin

Nic,

I just read through your drop thread. You got the engine down BY YOURSELF and lived to tell the tale. Nothing wrong with that no matter how long it took. If Grant wasn't willing to come over and share his expertise, well my engine would still be in the car. When you're by yourself all you can think of sometimes it not screwing up. Having a seasoned veteran help gives peace of mind and you it takes half the time.

I did not have a set of Allen sockets and removing the Allen's on the axles shafts was going to take forever so we went to HF and got some lunch. Also got a set of really long 3/8's extensions. Took 5 minutes to do the job when we got back.

Here's the great thing about having two people. Somebody is always catching mistakes. I missed a fuel line disconnect and fortunately Grant saw it before we started actually lowering the engine. I had made a checklist and at one point Grant said "I'm sure glad you made that list or we would've forgotten so and so..." It is easy to forget stuff even if you've done it a bunch of times. It's not a race. Getting the job done well and living to tell the tale is the important part. You're not on a pit crew for a race team.

I need to get a better pic of Grant's setup. It makes all the difference in the world.

One thing I forgot to note. Grant suggested we put the 6-tonners inboard on the torsion tube. They are not in the way at all and to me it feels safer. I don't know if it really is or not but it sure feels that way.

Tim,

That was surgical !
I love the fact that not only did you complete the task so efficiently but you managed to do it so cleanly.
Your Garage is still spotless and you and Grant look like you haven't even crawled under the car.

I look forward to (going to school on) your upcoming projects.

PS Tell Grant he's welcome in my driveway anytime and yes I have lots of Scotch.
Nick

[Targalid]

I am still grateful to Grant for posting the Silastic 732 tip for Porsche engine case leaks. That finally dried up my cam tower leak. Thanks again Grant!

[uwanna]

Originally Posted by IXjamesXI

So Grant.. What kind of steam cleaner have you got? Looking for a recommendation as I would like to get one for p-car cleanup chores.

I stumbled upon this Karcher Hotwater/steam cleaner ten or so years ago. It was brand new from a lady who had invested in a detail company that never got off the ground. Made her an offer of about 25% retail price and she accepted! Basically stole it!
It's a Karcher HDS 501C. It has a big kerosene burner/coil, and runs on 120VAC,
about 1600PSI and 200 deg water temp. holds about 5 gallons of kerosene onboard.
It cleans like a demon!
Karcher's commercial stuff is not sold widely in the US, but is in Canada. My best recommendation would be to look at the cleaners at Northern Tools. they sell similar units.
Here's some pics:

[IXjamesXI]

That thing looks serious.. Thank you for the info...!

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by nicfranc

I Quit.

I did one out and in by myself and was a first timer. If I can do it, anyone can. This board will get you through it.