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Backdating an update

I have a 1972 911 that was updated to a short hood wide body many years ago. No time soon but at some point I would like to restore it to original. Can I just bolt on a long hood or are there modifications that need to be made to swap out the hood?

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f they changed the front panel for the hood latch you will need to change it back.
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Is it hard to tell if it has been changed?
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Updated widebody cars make for good backdated RSR look outlaws! The white car in my pelican garage was 69E that was hacked in the 80s to look like a 930. I kept the flares during the 're-date' as the engine was already changed out and originality wasn't an issue anymore.
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Here is a picture of what it looks like now. It currently has a 2.7 in it but I don't think it is original. I am building a 3.0 for it now.

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Take a pic of the inside of the frunk - where the hood latch is. Then we can tell how the conversion was done.
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Tom, that is a bastardized "short nose" striker plate and front cross member. Someone has cut the original member that runs across the front out and replaced it with the later model's type. To properly revert the nose you will need to replace it. Good news is that you can buy the correct parts from Restoration Design.

On a couple of side notes - if it has a 2.7 (although it is possible that it may be a stroked 2.4- which was the original motor), it is very unlikely that the motor is original. What sort of fuel delivery system is being used?

Seems really odd that the car has two batteries up front arranged as they are. Any idea why? On this subject, if you are thinking that you want to revert the car to be a completely correct 72 "long nose" I think I'm right in saying you will also have to replace the original battery boxes which would have been cut out to accommodate the headlights.
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I am going to guess you are not going to go full correct approaching concourse 72 back date. I would just slap some FG long nose fenders on and one of the back date long FG hoods that connects to the short nose latch. Or you could even use a metal long nose hood and hold it down with rubber straps, kind of R gruppe. That car is probably to far gone to bring all the way back. But that jut means you can have more fun with it.

That 2 battery set up is very odd. 2 huge powerful batteries???
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Not sure about the batteries. That's how it came. It was an auto cross car for a long time before I got it.

I believe the motor is a stroked 2.4. It has weber carbs on it.

With welded on rear flares and a ton of parts removed to lighten it I think it would be a real pain to change it back to original but at some point I am sure I would want to give it a shot.
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72s have become highly prized. You'll be surprised that, as long as you can weld or know someone who can, that anything is doable. Have fun.
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Here is a picture of what it looks like now. It currently has a 2.7 in it but I don't think it is original. I am building a 3.0 for it now.

I don't know exactly why but I'm diggin it the way it is.

With some new wheels that could look the business.
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I was thinking the same thing. How about a coat of shiny black paint? It's hard to tell how well or badly the conversion was done and how much work will be needed to make it really presentable but it does have an appeal just as it stands.
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It looks like it was done correctly. The rear flares are metal and were butt welded. Not sure about the front until I can pull a fender.

I agree 100% on the wheels!
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Buy rsr front fg flares, hood, bumper, etc, and then paint it. It would look great then, right now it looks like a Porsche I wanted in the 80's.
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Buy rsr front fg flares, hood, bumper, etc, and then paint it. It would look great then, right now it looks like a Porsche I wanted in the 80's.
for me with one color paint, yes
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Wow Wayner, the finished product is nice!

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