WTF happened to plugwire thread? Wayne?

speeder · speeder's Garage

Don't tell me that this thread was excised just because of a little tussle over union labor? I had an important question I wanted answered, (about plug wire connectors, not labor). It had Porsche content, whassup?

Glasgow 911SC · Glasgow 911SC's Garage

Hmm. Thought I could help you as I saved the link. I plan to make my own wires at some point), but its now invalid!

Rot 911 · 10-03-2002, 05:48 AM

Denis, did you post the original thread? If so I was going to offer to give you the set of old plug wires off my '86 Carrera to play with. They were working just fine when I replaced them with Magnacor wires (purchased from Pelican).

s_wilwerding · s_wilwerding's Garage

I'm the one who started the thread - I contacted Wayne this morning about it being deleted.

Kurt, I would be interested in your old wires. What can I give you for them?

Thanks.

Rot 911 · 10-03-2002, 07:19 AM

Ah yes, I should have remembered you were from Omaha! You can have them for the cost of shipping. I'm always willing to contribute to the cause of experimentation on 911's! Just PM me with an address that you want me to send them to.

speeder · speeder's Garage

Once again, I do not understand this thread being surgically removed from existence when other crazier, more inflamatory threads simply wind up in the OT forum. What's up here, Wayne? You are usually not shy about defending yourself when a disagreement pops up here. (?)

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Geez, you guys spend way too much time on this board. A whole bunch of you emailed me this morning...

I added a huge rant to the thread about certain opinions I have about certain things - then decided it was better left unsaid. You can say I censored myself...

It's gone - let it go or start a new thread...

-Wayne

Brian993 · Brian993's Garage

I think it was the whole, if we think union labor is bad in the US look how bad it is in Germany remark. Usually I get nasty PM's from Wayne when he disagree's with me. In this case he makes his problems disappear. I guess some of us are only human while others are above it all.

pwd72s · 04:59 PM

Wayne? Which is the greater sin? Censoring others, or censoring others in order to censor one's self? You deleted a thread to delete yourself???? (edit) Tough thing, censorship...though I remember one you eliminated that many of us agree with....it offered nothing but gay obscenities.

TimT · 10-03-2002, 05:12 PM

Interesting how the thread starts as a simple question.

"Why are spark plug wires so expensive?" ( pardon me if i dont have the exact thread title)

People offer advice and opinions..... all may be granted with grains of salt. Then the pool of opinions and advice gets wider until the intent of the orginal question is lost.

I think Wayne introduced the labor unions in Germany into this thread..

Spark plug wires cost more for Porsches because of "supply and demand" its that easy.

Things only cost as much as you will pay for them

smestas · smestas's Garage

Big Bummer!

I wanted to print the thread as soon as it slowed down.

RoninLB · 10-03-2002, 05:31 PM

IMO, nothing lasts forever..and for some reason the thread had to go..no problem..I did feel myself getting worked up over the new topic....................Ron

TimT · 10-03-2002, 05:33 PM

Im wondering what I missed?

pwd72s · 10-03-2002, 05:37 PM

Ron...I didn't see the original,,

Jim Richards · 10-03-2002, 06:09 PM

Yeah...and what happened to the two free Porsches?

RoninLB · 10-03-2002, 07:09 PM

Tim/Paul..the thread started as a straight 911 topic..then escalated into an emotional one concerning jobs/unions/money/cost of parts..you didn't miss much..any business mag would give you better info than me doing a rant..which is what was happening, IMO..so, one thing for sure..when a male is good you pat him on the head, and when he's bad you pat him on the ass........................Ron

s_wilwerding · s_wilwerding's Garage

I started the original thread and somebody (I don't remember who) had a great paragraph about building your own wires. I was going to print it out today (after it had fleshed out a little) because it was really good stuff. However, I look for it this morning, and lo and behold, it's missing.

I don't blame Wayne for throwing away some of the stuff that wasn't related to spark plug wires, but I'd sure like to have that paragraph back. So, if you're the one who posted, PLEASE REPOST! It sounds like a lot of people would love to read it again (or for the first time).

Early_S_Man · 10-03-2002, 08:01 PM

Steve,

Here is the first, and most important thread I posted on the rebuilding project:

Ignition Wires

Here is another one that rebutts what Wayne said about the braided wires curing problems caused by early non-shielded sets. Read it all the way through, as at first is sounds like the non-braided wire set caused a missing problem ... humans DO sometime cause a new problem(s) when replacing old components!

sparkplug wire experts...

A couple of additional threads about testing components, rebuilding, and a few other issues like missing at temperatures above 90°F ...

Sparl Plug Wires

Beru connectors, are VW the same?

s_wilwerding · s_wilwerding's Garage

Thanks, S_Man. Sorry you had to post twice.

Superman · 10-04-2002, 10:16 AM

I'm probably the infamous author of the communist labor remarks, and also the author of the plug wire rebuild story. The hard part is getting the screw-ends and getting them crimped onto the wires properly. The screw ends are Porsche part # 911.609.310.00. Mercedes part number 000.159.1438. I've had better luck with the Mercedes dealership than the Porsche dealership. Go there with 20' of 7mm copper-core nonresistor wire (as opposed to resistor wires without metal cores), cut into six strips that are at least long enough for your purposes. Buy the screw-ends and plead with them to crimp them on for you. This is the hard part. The rest is easy enough that my 10-year-old would have no trouble:

The distributor ends and the spark plug ends both just screw off. I mean they unscrew. Le me know if you need more....