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Jwest shiftrod weld broke

Surprised me while moving to 5th accelerating on the highway. Good thing I was able to nurse it home. As pic shows the rod weld broke. Seems all I need is to bring the unit to a good welder. Is there a type of weld preferred to avoid this from happening again? Lever is spring loaded and rests on 3/4 plane so I think theres enough stress on this rod moving when selecting ither gears aside from 3/4.


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Interesting... Mine didn't break but came off to the same effect !! I had to retighten those screws and added JBweld for good measure... I'd ask them for a new one, if it broke !
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Interesting... Mine didn't break but came off to the same effect !! I had to retighten those screws and added JBweld for good measure... I'd ask them for a new one, if it broke !
Screwed on tight but the rod it's screwed on to was welded on to the base piece. I just need to know if there's a type and/or preferred method for a good solid weld. Thanks

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Glad you were able to make it back home. I just posted pictures on the thanksgiving thread.
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I miss driving my car (waiting for that replacement part). Just venting folks.
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Hmmm.... Maybe there is something to the high price of the wevo....

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I miss driving my car (waiting for that replacement part). Just venting folks.
Would be good to know what JWest said before having a part failure laid out on this forum. They would also be able to properly answer your question about what type of repair to make (assuming they didn't just warranty the part.)

TIG weld is likely the answer to your question IF repair and not replacement is the only option, but only after speaking directly with the manufacturer which would have been the correct thing to do before "venting" here.
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I miss driving my car (waiting for that replacement part). Just venting folks.

Would be good to know what JWest said before having a part failure laid out on this forum. They would also be able to properly answer your question about what type of repair to make (assuming they didn't just warranty the part.)



TIG weld is likely the answer to your question IF repair and not replacement is the only option, but only after speaking directly with the manufacturer which would have been the correct thing to do before "venting" here.
On Nov 30 he said he will replace the unit I assume with a one piece stalk.
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Hmmm.... Maybe thete is something to the high proce of the wevo....
Not the right answer.....
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Not the right answer.....
Maybe not, but it is a thought. I was a little taken back by how little came with the wevo shifter. For less money the rennshift gave me a bit of envy, but I had gone with the wevo from trusted advice. If nothing else, it is solid with the cast shift lever. The shift lever seems to be a weak point of design in the rennshift based on the experience of the OP. That is a high torque location to have a weld.

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That is a high torque location to have a weld.
Too funny....welds are not uncommon in high torque "locations". But a shifter is not a "high torque" application. The problem isn't that there is a weld there. The problem is that the weld was not an good weld.
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Oh, I bought my Rennshift in 2011 and the part at that location is not welded. It is machined.

It would appear that JWest Engineering made a design change to fix an issue some of there customers experienced. This is standard operating procedure in this industry.
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Porsche short shift kit + Seine spring loading. You won't have these issues, and money in the bank.
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Porsche short shift kit + Seine spring loading. You won't have these issues, and money in the bank.
You won't have these issues if you buy a Rennshift today or anytime in the last 3 years. The Porsche short shift kit with the Seine kit is not as good as the Wevo or Rennshift setup.

I bought the Rennshift setup because it didn't use the Factory tower. The Rennshift tower is much more robust, offers much better spring loading adjustability, and offers better reverse lockout options.
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Porsche short shift kit + Seine spring loading. You won't have these issues, and money in the bank.
I agree with Walt, have the same setup plus I added a 6" stick extension. Extension puts the shift knob in the perfect position for me. The 6" extension added to the short shift kit probably results in a shift stroke of about the same length as stock.
The one feature I like in the Seine versus the WEVO or Rennshift is the tabs that relieve
the spring tension when in 1st and 2nd gear, much like the stock tabs do for 5th and reverse.
I followed the "Blueprinting the 915 shift housing" procedure on the Seine website. The
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The shift rod with a weld was an interim replacement by my supplier because he was out of the material used for the full length shaft. Only about a half-dozen were produced this way as a stop-gap, and unfortunately it seems (now that I have seen it apart) that there was not enough bevel put on the shaft before he welded and machined it, so there was very little weld left.

Of course as soon as the OP told me about this, the shaft was replaced with a new standard one-piece shaft.
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Get the pitch forks! Lynch him!

I think this is a case of everyone is an expert on the internet. I've seen probably a half dozen factory shifters break, so this is not an uncommon problem for anyone to have. JWest fixed this ASAP for the guy. What else can you ask for? The Rennshifter is a great device and the price is completely in line for a small quantity, engineered component.

Nice work Jwest.
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I have both the Seine kit and a Rennshift setup. They are both very good but I ran into a weird fitment issue with the factory/Seine when trying to mate it up to my 3.6L conversion. The Rennshift allowed more fore/aft adjustability and solved the issue. So the Seine kit goes into my racecar...
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I have both the Seine kit and a Rennshift setup. They are both very good but I ran into a weird fitment issue with the factory/Seine when trying to mate it up to my 3.6L conversion. The Rennshift allowed more fore/aft adjustability and solved the issue. So the Seine kit goes into my racecar...
Strange, I have the Seine unit in my 3.6 conversion and never experienced any fitment issue like you described. Did you perhaps alter the fore/aft mounting position of your engine in doing the transplant?
Will have to admit, I've never driven a car with either the WEVO or Rennshift installed.
I would like to just to experience the subtle differences, although I am thoroughly pleased with my Seine.
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Strange, I have the Seine unit in my 3.6 conversion and never experienced any fitment issue like you described. Did you perhaps alter the fore/aft mounting position of your engine in doing the transplant?
Will have to admit, I've never driven a car with either the WEVO or Rennshift installed.
I would like to just to experience the subtle differences, although I am thoroughly pleased with my Seine.
Definitely different fore/aft positioning of the motor and trans with my conversion. And I reached the limit of the shift rod adjustment in the tunnel at the coupler. The Rennline shifter does look a bit more tidy -- my wiring on the other hand...


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