A/C Reverse The Gases in Early Model 911's

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by Tippy

Thanks for the offer Reid, but I'm really far away from having a complete AC system.

I do wish you luck on getting to market, but at a reasonable price. I'm game for lightweight, efficient AC. I believe I read the entire AC system of an older Lotus Elise was 35lbs. I could live with that!!

Thanks, I will have an announcement very soon about something I am doing for a DIY

Anyway are you putting or have plans to install into your 930?

That weight is low which is good but what about the condenser size surface are dimensions

930/s with large enter-coolers reallly cut down a/c system heat exchangers room
and makes it even more of a challenge to make cold a/c

[Tippy]

I have a turbocharged Carrera 3.2 still narrow body.

But yes, my intercooler is full bay (width).

[Tippy]

I just meant, I remember reading the Lotus Elise AC system was designed super lightweight, not that I'd use one.

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by Tippy

I have a turbocharged Carrera 3.2 still narrow body.

But yes, my intercooler is full bay (width).

Thanks didn't see that until I got to the reply edit window

Anyway that makes things HARDER BUT not impossible, although I have not installed one yet I have A small PFC for 930s 1/2 upper deck lid space, and you would still need my front PFC

But why would you want to put in a lotus a/c system? or chaNge from Porsche's 911 design?

not sure if that would work for you but it might?

[crownarch]

I agree with you KelogGes, new AC systems/components are becoming super light weight and extremely compact. Not to change your thread but, the compressor on a brand new Scion FRS is not much bigger than a coffee cup. In addition, there is not much to their condensers. That's what is great about new technology as it is always in constant change for the better.

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by Tippy

I just meant, I remember reading the Lotus Elise AC system was designed super lightweight, not that I'd use one.

OH ok

YOU need to use your smugglers box for evaporator
OEM plastic box is designed to fit it then it can be modified

you dont want to make an abortion a/c


The Tan Swan the Father that first had because he lived in pacific nothwest and you don't need a/c there hacked the firewall and the duct-work under the dash to put in a 12 volt heater and tossed out the a/c

What a friggen pain his hack job caused and a lot of labor to fix it, The Tan swan took months of work ouch

but now it has a state of the art new technology A/C system in it all custom designed

[Tippy]

I agree with you KelogGes, new AC systems/components are becoming super light weight and extremely compact. Not to change your thread but, the compressor on a brand new Scion FRS is not much bigger than a coffee cup. In addition, there is not much to their condensers. That's what is great about new technology as it is always in constant change for the better.

Gears turning.....

[Tippy]

Quote de Tippy

I just meant, I remember reading the Lotus Elise AC system was designed super lightweight, not that I'd use one.

OH ok



YOU need to use your smugglers box for evaporator

OEM plastic box is designed to fit it then it can be modifed



you dont want to make an abortion a/c





The Tan Swan the Father that first had because he lived in pacific nothwestt and you don't need a/c there hacked the firewall and the duckwork under the dash to put in a 12 volt heater and tossed out the a/c



What a friggen pain his hack job caused and a lot of labor to fix it, The Tan swan took months of work ouch



but now it has a state of the art new technology A/C system in it all custom designed

My car is a bastard, fully understand!

[wwest]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

what you have seen on eBay IS cheap china knock off junk and/or and its old technology ; you get what you pay for LOL


Buy it if you want too

But it does NOT fit an early model 911 deck lid properly, its also way to small

As far as I know I am the only person custom making PFC's designed specifically for early model 911's using state of the art technology front and rear

other companies selling PFC's for 911's are mostly re-selling Arizona Mobile Air, Inc. | Automotive Air Conditioning Parts & Equipment china universal crap,

they only have a kinda sorta a rear one that does not really fit correctly that have air gaps on the sides you can drive a bus through LoL

but this one is actually better than an OEM Behr that used tube and fin technology,

RennAire Porsche 911 Air Conditioning Products

sells them after I refused to give him an exclusive on my PFC's after he tested a set made for him of my designs, he liked them VERY MUCH and wanted to buy them

oh and so as does another a/c aftermarket 911 company I forget their name sell Arizona Mobile Air, Inc. | Automotive Air Conditioning Parts & Equipment FOR 2-3 Times what you can them direct from Arizona Mobile Air, Inc. | Automotive Air Conditioning Parts & Equipment yourself

Ya want one I still have a test one I bought from Arizona Mobile Air, Inc. | Automotive Air Conditioning Parts & Equipment to test it right before I started making my own because I could not buy what I wanted and this is what led me to make my own using state of the art technology make me a cheap offer, it slightly used for about a month for testing


good luck finding a pfc that will fit in front

Well stated...

other than mine, they don't exist,

What good is the FIT, if the FUNCTION is lost...???

to the best of my knowledge

An "edge forward" mounted PFC has little or no functionality insofar as airflow cooling from forward roadspeed, whereas the factory condenser gains >80% of its function that way.

Perhaps that's why KelogGes is making such a concerted effort to cool it electrically.

22 amps...

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by Tippy

My car is a bastard, fully understand!

thanks i didnt know

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by Tippy

Gears turning.....

some is good others are crap

you have to be careful

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

Thanks, I will have an announcement very soon about something I am doing for a DIY

Will this actually increase 911 a/c performance past what is already widely available - not just weight savings but actual cabin cooling performance? Nothing that you have shown-&-told thus far (over and over and over and over) has accomplished this, so maybe this "to be announced" product/idea will get you there.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

wwest the clueless wonder of the fan mentality that knows nothing about gases and heat exchange

This is the single most ironic thing I've read on Pelican Parts.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

wwest the clueless wonder of the fan mentality that knows nothing about gases and heat exchange

^^^

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

This is the single most ironic thing I've read on Pelican Parts.

Definitely a fine example of this, right?!?!

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

^^^



Definitely a fine example of this, right?!?!

I CALLED YOU A LIAR

li·ar
ˈlī(ə)r/
noun

a person who tells lies.
synonyms: deceiver, fibber, perjurer, false witness, fabricator, equivocator; fabulist;

And I meant it and still maintain you are !

for the BS you posted here repeatedly about your car A/C system and claims is true posting so called temperature numbers pictures showing 29.x degrees and saying your evaporator does not freeze up, and the rest you said about extended driving at these temperatures

I AM CALLING YOU OUT

[KelogGes]

I have never posted anything but true facts here I can back up with proof !

[KelogGes]

Prove me wrong

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by wwest

An "edge forward" mounted PFC has little or no functionality insofar as airflow cooling from forward roadspeed, whereas the factory condenser gains >80% of its function that way.

Perhaps that's why KelogGes is making such a concerted effort to cool it electrically.

22 amps...

roflmaO

[wwest]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

roflmaO

So, a simple task...

Give us a line drawing of how you propose that roadspeed forward motion airflow cools your PFC as well as would the factory tube/fin one.

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by wwest

So, a simple task...

Give us a line drawing of how you propose that roadspeed forward motion airflow cools your PFC as well as would the factory tube/fin one.

in your case

you can't fix stupid!