71 Targa Decoding ?

[GotaT]

I'd like help verifying a 71 911 Targa regarding matching numbers. I came across some online information that was confusing/conflicting regarding the Trans numbers and how they relate to the engine/car (T E S). I've seen some information indicating some 71 T cars were mated with a 911/01 and other info indicating only for E S.

Vin: 911113409 911 1=Year 1= Targa 3409=Serial
Trans: 911/01 5spd T ? E/S
7710825 Serial
Engine: 6118118 6= # cyl 1 = T 1= Year 8118 = Serial
Left Case: 901.101.102 3R


Thanks for the assistance!

[djpateman]

The transmission is certainly appropriate for that VIN, they are both late in the year.
The engine is the second last of it's type that year.
A four speed, a five speed or a sportomatic could be used with the T engine.

[javadog]

A 911/00 4 speed was standard on a T, a 911/01 5 speed was optional. If it had a sportomatic, that would have been a 905/20. A 911/01 was standard for an E or an S, so maybe that's where the confusion arises with your source material. When in doubt, use Porsche documentation to answer these questions. Either the technical specifications book for that year, or a copy of PET will have that information.

JR

[GotaT]

Originally Posted by javadog

A 911/00 4 speed was standard on a T, a 911/01 5 speed was optional. If it had a sportomatic, that would have been a 905/20. A 911/01 was standard for an E or an S, so maybe that's where the confusion arises with your source material. When in doubt, use Porsche documentation to answer these questions. Either the technical specifications book for that year, or a copy of PET will have that information.

JR

Where may I get a PET copy?

As an additional update after cleaning the engine, it is 911/07, which I believe is also correct.

Is there a way to determine the factory options that were equipped on the car as well? ie brakes, suspension, guages, S trim, interior color, etc

I've also cleaned the wheels well enough to get the numbers from each. How can I determine if these were original to the car, and would this add any value?

Thanks !

[djpateman]

parts catalog here:

Porsche Classic Genuine Parts Catalogue - Porsche Canada

The factory options would be listed on the COA which you can get from PCNA.

[javadog]

You chassis number is probably for a US car, so a 911/07 engine would be correct.

The only way to obtain the option information is to get a Certificate of Authenticity from PCNA, as noted above.

The original wheels do add to the value. The nicer the car, the more they add to the value, especially if they are a desirable option, like a 6X15 Fuchs wheel would be on a '71 T.

JR

[93nav]

Once you get the PET, go to the bottom of it (the V pages) and there it explains how to decode the VIN and such.

Originally Posted by djpateman

parts catalog here:

Porsche Classic Genuine Parts Catalogue - Porsche Canada

The factory options would be listed on the COA which you can get from PCNA.

[Cook&Dunning]

I agree with above post from guru JR - my only question is your vin - you posted a 9 digit number - I think it should be 10, maybe you are missing a 1 in that series? I agree with all posters you will need to order a coa - although they can be wrong in the early cars - which is ok, because you can call in and modify. Interested to see if your car had had zeniths from 72 or or weber 40's from 71. According to Austin / Walter book, there were 3476 targas made in 1971, so yours is definitely late production, might have some 72 stuff?

[bhmkv]

Is this car Green?

[GotaT]

Thanks for all the information.

To answer your questions the car is white with webers.

All wheels are all stamped 91136102000 AS 162 6Jx15, with the exception of one where the 6 is missing in front of the Jx15.

I visited the Porsche Link listed above but could not find the catalog providing vehicle specific information.

[Dltjaden]

To get the information specific to your vehicle you will need to order a Porsche Certificate of Authenticity (COA). This is the info you need:
https://www.pca.org/sites/default/files/COA-Order-Form-MKT%20006%20078%2015-2015-02-18.pdf

[djpateman]

this link works:
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/usa/911_USA_70_73_KATALOG.pdf

they keep changing the site & catalog names.

[47silver]

go to this site
Porsche 911 C- und D-Modell 1970/71

could be anything

the engine number seems to be a T
what is the block number? 911/XX?

[GotaT]

Originally Posted by 47silver

go to this site
Porsche 911 C- und D-Modell 1970/71

could be anything

the engine number seems to be a T
what is the block number? 911/XX?

Engine 911/07

[47silver]

Looks like a 71 carb T coupe engine

[javadog]

Now that we've beaten the engine number to death, I'll get back to the wheels. That part number is for a late style 6x15 Fuchs. You would want to check the date codes but they are likley to be original to the car. They would have been an option for that year, so they do add to the value. You can look on the back side of the wheels for a date code in m/yr format.

If you call Porsche to get a COA, they may be willing to confirm the engine number as original to the car while they are on the phone with you. The rest of the information will take some time. They may not have the transmission number, as some from that era aren't in their records.

JR