Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Jim Smolka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Hickory NC USA
Posts: 2,502
Winter 3.2 Engine Project

Not sure what to do with my 3.2 motor.

Been reading BA's book, but still have a couple of questions.

Thinking about 3.4 P/C using mass air flow with DME, headers etc.

Another route is to install carbs.

How much am I going to gain (if any) by going to carbs vs DME FI.

Thanks in advance.

I would like to get close to 300HP, I know, but I can dream.

__________________
'75 914-6 3.2 (Track Car)
'81 SC 3.6 (Beast)
'993 Cab (Almost Done Restoring)
Old 12-12-2002, 07:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
dickster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: a few miles east of USA
Posts: 3,393
i think it was todd at promototive (sp?) who told me he once did a n/a 3.2 for a customer and hit a brick wall at 250hp. he got around it by using a "high butterfly manifold" (?) and got 275 straight away.

when i enquired some time later about the manifold the cost was about $4k!!!

i have ba's book - i would follow the mods he suggests - including i think he twin plugged??
__________________
Rich

'86 coupe

"there you are"
Old 12-13-2002, 12:43 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Finland
Posts: 5
Hi,

BTW, My first post!

IŽll install single turbocharger for my 3.4 during this winter.
Moderate 0.2 boost for 10.3:1 compression engine seems to work.
No other mods, only Motronic chip needs "some" tuning.
Result should be at least 30hp more. Reliability? Yes, I know
one with 20 000km (12Kmiles) since modification (289hp)...and no problems!
If you can do it by yourself, (except tuning, you need Motronic specialist with dyno etc.) total cost/hp is very competitive!
Old 12-13-2002, 01:54 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
juan ruiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,207
Garage
Jim Smolka,

Jim just walk to the Dark Side and Joint us you will never go back,the Dark side gets even Darker as you go theres only one solution T U R B O
__________________
10.76@139-1/4 mile
0-1 mile 193MPH
I Love to Shine Cars
Old 12-13-2002, 04:14 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Metal Guru
 
911nut's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Beverly Hills, Michigan
Posts: 2,526
Garage
Jim,
I read about the 3.2 mod's in B.A.'s book too. Seems like you can get 30 additional HP with intake and exhaust changes for relatively cheap. If I had a 3.2 I'd do that stuff first, drive it a while and them decide if I needed 300 HP. You might come to the conclusion that 250 HP is good enough.
__________________
Paul B.
'91 964 3.3 Turbo
Port matched, SC cams, K27/K29 turbo, Roush Performance custom headers w/Tial MV-S dual wastegates, Rarlyl8 muffler, LWFW, GT2 clutch & PP, BL wur, factory RS shifter, RS mounts, FVD timing mod, Big Reds, H&R Coilovers, ESB spring plates- 210 lb
Old 12-13-2002, 05:39 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 3,522
I've read gearing changes are good for another 50hp equivalent in speed increase.
__________________
1980 911SC Targa 3.6L
Old 12-13-2002, 06:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
juan ruiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,207
Garage
HP is NOT as easy as everyone Dreams off,must of the claims and numbers are wayyyyyyyyy of in the real world.
__________________
10.76@139-1/4 mile
0-1 mile 193MPH
I Love to Shine Cars
Old 12-13-2002, 07:32 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
ttweed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: La Jolla, CA
Posts: 2,445
Garage
Re: Winter 3.2 Engine Project

Quote:
Originally posted by Jim Smolka
Not sure what to do with my 3.2 motor.
[snipped]
I would like to get close to 300HP, I know, but I can dream.
The 3.4 NA motor I just installed in my '73 has the Mahle Sport P/C at 10.5:1, special Webcam grind, Carillo rods and 50mm PMO carbs. It made 280 RWHP at 6850RPM and 240 ft./lb. of torque at about 5000RPM on the dyno w/ 1-3/4" headers and straight pipes, so 300 flywheel HP is not a dream for the setup you are considering.

Dyno sheet
TT
__________________
Tom Tweed
Early S Registry #257
R Gruppe #232
Rennlist Founding Member #990416-1164
Driving Porsches since 1964
Old 12-13-2002, 08:27 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 572
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to RichMason
Jim,

You could give your 3.2 to me to replace my 2.0 E and go for the ultimate 914-6 - a 3.6.

Rich
Old 12-13-2002, 09:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
juan ruiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,207
Garage
You can get 320hp/277rwhp just with adding a turbo,no internal modifications ,no intercooler,.5bar non adjustable boost

__________________
10.76@139-1/4 mile
0-1 mile 193MPH
I Love to Shine Cars
Old 12-13-2002, 09:42 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:01 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.