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Help needed removing the shifter pivot cage

Howdy guys,

I can't seem to be able to remove this Allen bolt to free the pivot cage. Am I missing something? I tried heating it up and torquing pretty hard without success. Any ideas?


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Alex

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Old 01-05-2017, 05:43 PM
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Yeah I broke my tower trying to get it loose.

be careful.
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I find it easier to loosen the lock nut with the tower still attached to the car, then the bolt just turns out freely.
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repeated liquid wrench and tighten it then more lubricant and keep at it .....carefully.
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repeated liquid wrench and tighten it then more lubricant and keep at it .....carefully.
Soaking overnight. Let's hope it loosened up.

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Put it back in the car so you can get some leverage on the large nut. Also worth noting that in my first go at this job I messed up the threaded pin and found out it's virtually impossible to find a replacement on its own. A pelican came to the rescue with a complete shifter assembly.
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I find it easier to loosen the lock nut with the tower still attached to the car, then the bolt just turns out freely.
^^^^
This!

It's a lock nut doing exactly it's job.
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I tried clamping the tower down after a night of soaking in penetrant. No luck. How much can I heat this part? Is it possible to overheat it with a blow torch?

Also, I don't have to unscrew the brass nut right? It only acts as a "depth locker" for the Allen bolt right? The way the threads go, I don't see the brass nut impede the release of the black Allen bolt. Having said that, I've been known to be wrong!

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I tried clamping the tower down after a night of soaking in penetrant. No luck. How much can I heat this part? Is it possible to overheat it with a blow torch?

Also, I don't have to unscrew the brass nut right? It only acts as a "depth locker" for the Allen bolt right? The way the threads go, I don't see the brass nut impede the release of the black Allen bolt. Having said that, I've been known to be wrong!

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Wrong.
undo the "Brass" nut first. It's what's locking the screw in.
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The allen bolt is theaded into the housing. and the Nut is trying to pull the tread out of the housing and s such putting pressure on the allen bolt and 'Locking' it into position.

Undo the nut first while holding the allen bolt still with an allen key
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Ok, thanks. Having said that, I tried the nut, it doesn't budge. I'll try more penetrant. Thanks guys.
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Yes it's a pain. there's no room to get a socket or ring spanner in there. just have to use a good open ender with brute force while holding the housing. I remember mine was tight.
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Before you waste anymore of your time, why not bolt the base back into the car and unbolt the lock nut with a socket. It will make your life easy. No chemicals, no flames and no frustration.
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22mm 1/2inch drive fits perfectly.

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22mm 1/2inch drive fits perfectly.
I'm on it!
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I assumed a socket wouldn't fit in there.

Alex's learnt lesson of the day: Never assume!

Thanks all!
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did you get it?
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Glad it worked out!!
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did you get it?
I did, thanks. I clamped the tower to my workbench and used a 22 mill socket and barker bar.
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Awesome!
What are you doing? a refurb or wevo type replacement?

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