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Taxi! 02-05-2017 10:32 AM

AEM AFR and Voltmeter Gauges Install
 
I'm a serial lurker, and have certainly taken much more from this forum than I've given it, but thought I'd share a pic of my AEM gauge install. In typical fashion for me, I started out wanting to add a voltmeter because I followed Jack Olsen's lead and installed a Battery Tender LiFePo4 battery and wanted to monitor the charging. So I ordered the AEM voltmeter and Rothsport clock delete plug.

But then I got thinking that if I put the voltmeter where the clock was, I won't be able to put anything else there, like an AFR gauge. In my mind, it's better to have an AFR gauge near your line of sight than it is a voltmeter. So I decided the drill a 2" hole in my perfectly good Rennline lower dash and mount the voltmeter there, and drill another 2" hole in my perfectly good clock delete plug for an AFR gauge.

Major thanks to Salcarceller, who I contacted for some advice about the O2 sensor wiring. I was afraid the 8' harness for the O2 sensor was going to be too short to go from the engine compartment through the interior into the frunk and then up to the rear of the gauge panel but I actually ended up with probably a foot of wiring to spare.

One word of advice, though. The AEM gauges can be programmed with various backlit colors to match different instrument lights and the default is red. To change the color you have to insert a jeweler's screwdriver into a hole in the back and turn an adjuster. The point is that if you can do this before the gauge is fully installed it'll probably be easier than doing it afterwards, where space is usually minimal.

Jeff

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livetopedal 02-06-2017 12:01 PM

Great work Jeff!
I am planning on doing the same thing this week. Could you post some detail with pics on where you ran the wiring?
Thom

911pcars 02-06-2017 04:21 PM

There aren't many A-pillar mounting options. Here's an A-pillar gauge mount available on eBay. No drilling. The mount clamps onto the A-pillar profile; the gauge cup of choice attaches to it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1486430329.jpg

Sherwood

Lake Guy 02-06-2017 07:54 PM

Jeff, I've got the exact same gauges. I'm going to mount mine in the console where the air conditioning switches used to be - pictures will come when done. Where did you route your wiring for the O2 sensor? I'm doing that job next so would like to see what you did.

Mark.

scooterp7 02-07-2017 03:55 AM

Do you have the name of the seller of the A pillar mount? Thanks

Scott

scarceller 02-07-2017 04:50 AM

Jeff,
That install looks great!
If you have a 84-89 Carrera I can share a document I have on gathering AFRs for the 3.2L motor. This doc outlines 7 test cases I use to access the health of a 3.2L motor. I developed these 7 test cases after years of looking at AFR readings on healthy motors. Even if the motor is not a 3.2L you can still use these basic tests on other engines like CIS but readings will run about -0.5 richer
You already have my email.

scarceller 02-07-2017 05:01 AM

Route the wiring via the main engine harness access hole, it's located under the rear drivers side jump seat. If you are sitting in the rear seat it's directly behind your left heel. Lift the carpet in that area and you'll find the large DME to Engine harness as it goes through the firewall in that location. Run the harness from outside into the cabin, meaning you will route the small connector end of the harness that plugs into the gauge, start under the car and push that small connector through that large rubber grommet. You may want to pull the grommet out of the tin from inside the cabin, then get the gauge harness through the grommet and reinstall the grommet.

Enjoy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Guy (Post 9463321)
Jeff, I've got the exact same gauges. I'm going to mount mine in the console where the air conditioning switches used to be - pictures will come when done. Where did you route your wiring for the O2 sensor? I'm doing that job next so would like to see what you did.

Mark.


livetopedal 02-07-2017 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarceller (Post 9463534)
Route the wiring via the main engine harness access hole, it's located under the rear drivers side jump seat. If you are sitting in the rear seat it's directly behind your left heel. Lift the carpet in that area and you'll find the large DME to Engine harness as it goes through the firewall in that location. Run the harness from outside into the cabin, meaning you will route the small connector end of the harness that plugs into the gauge, start under the car and push that small connector through that large rubber grommet. You may want to pull the grommet out of the tin from inside the cabin, then get the gauge harness through the grommet and reinstall the grommet.

Enjoy!

Thanks for the tip Sal. I hope to have my components installed by the weekend and will also be contacting you soon for the data collection log.
Thom

scarceller 02-07-2017 07:07 AM

This thread is also helpful for ideas on mounting
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/895323-aem-wideband-o2-gauges.html

Lake Guy 02-07-2017 09:12 AM

Thanks for the wiring route details Sal. Will be easy as my interior is all out at this moment. I just have to get some time to put it up on the hoist so i can access the grommet from underneath. Please send the document with the 7 tests to my email - you and I have messaged before so I'll PM you the email address. The plan has always been to get the gauge in the car, do the testing, then buy your DME upgrade and new injectors. We'll make that happen this summer for sure.

Mark

dicklague 02-07-2017 11:36 AM

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This is what I used for my AFR and voltmeter. AFR is the bottom instrument. It records up to 2 hours of data and you can download it to your laptop with the mini USB port in the front on the lower left and then chart it or make an Excel spread sheet. I records AFR, RPM, and manifold vacuum/pressure. Our host sell this kit.

The "CL" reading on the gauge is for "cold" meaning the wideband sensor is not warmed up yet.

Above digital readout is battery voltage, oil cooler temp, free air temp, and a digital clock. The toggle switches let you toggle through the settings and set the clock.

I cannot over emphasize how critical it is to record AFR, RPM, and MAP data and be able to analyze it later. to me, real time gauges with no data memory is a waste.......unless you have a co-pilot with a clipboard who can take notes really really fast!!!!:):):)

I have had this setup in my MFI 2.7 1973 for many years and it has been invaluable in setting the AFR.

Lake Guy 02-08-2017 08:25 PM

This is a quick mock up of what I have in mind. I need to get the vinyl stretched a bit but I think the idea is clear.


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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1486617886.JPG

scarceller 02-09-2017 05:31 AM

Lake Guy,
That's really nice super clean install!

911pcars 02-09-2017 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooterp7 (Post 9463504)
Do you have the name of the seller of the A pillar mount? Thanks

Scott

That product is no longer on ebay, but I found one source:
Porsche 911 pillar pod gauge kit - 9xauto

Not at a friendly price. However, the unique profile of the early 911 A-pillar provides minimal options.

Koizumi 02-09-2017 09:21 AM

Dang, when that was available on eBay, it was less than half of that asking price!

Trackrash 02-09-2017 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Guy (Post 9466323)
This is a quick mock up of what I have in mind. I need to get the vinyl stretched a bit but I think the idea is clear.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1486617886.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1486617886.JPG

Really nice install. Makes me wish I had a console. My gauge arrives today, time to get busy.

betterair 02-09-2017 04:35 PM

less than professional but it gets the job done .

-dampened vdo ampmeter
-lightweight 911 GT LM guage surround (coors light beer can with high speed carbon fiber vinyl wrap)TM :)

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Taxi! 02-11-2017 06:34 AM

Hey guys,

Sorry for the delay in responding to some of your questions, but it was a busy work week.

First I ran the wiring along the inner wheel well and secured it so it wouldn't get snagged on anything. You can see how big the harness connector is. I also wrapped it to keep dirt and grime out.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1486826791.jpg

Sal had suggested running the wiring from the O2 sensor through the large grommet in the LH rear seat footwell area, which you can see part of in the lower right of the next photo. I initially tried that but decided to find another solution because the connector that goes into the back of the gauge is rectangular and has small tabs on the ends, so I was concerned about possibly breaking it while trying to force it through what is already a tight grommet. And because I was worried about the cable not being long enough, I wanted to run the wiring up the center of the car and not on the LH close to the door jamb like Sal did because my gauge is closer to the center of the car. So I drilled another hole and then added a grommet and silicone sealer:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1486826335.jpg

Then I ran the wiring through the LH inner seat rail and up to the pedal cluster. Because I have removed the A/C, I was able to run the wiring through an existing hole in underneath the dash into the smuggler's box and then out to the back of the dash in the frunk. (Please excuse my loose under dash wiring. I've removed a lot of interior components, like the center console and original dash, but am trying to keep most of the wiring for the time being.)

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After test driving the car, I agree with Dick that the value of an AFR gauge is seriously diminished without a data logger. The nice thing about the AEM gauges is both the voltmeter and AFR gauge have wires in the harnesses that can be connected to a data logger. Mine are not being used now, but I expect that'll change in the future.

Taxi! 02-11-2017 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarceller (Post 9463531)
Jeff,
That install looks great!
If you have a 84-89 Carrera I can share a document I have on gathering AFRs for the 3.2L motor. This doc outlines 7 test cases I use to access the health of a 3.2L motor. I developed these 7 test cases after years of looking at AFR readings on healthy motors. Even if the motor is not a 3.2L you can still use these basic tests on other engines like CIS but readings will run about -0.5 richer
You already have my email.

Yes, my car is an '86, Al, and I'm just getting to the point in my ownership where I'm starting to want to learn about tuning the engine. I've been fortunate that the engine has run very well since I bought this car a few years ago, but I'm sure it could be better. So if you could send that document I'd be most appreciative.

Jeff


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