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911/930 turbo starting issue

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Apologies if this question /problem has been addressed before but I'm at my whits end trying to figure this out .I have a 1983 930 turbo .I hadn't ran it for some time (in excess of about a year ) .Prior to this I ran the engine at home and the gas ran out .

I took the battery out and left the vehicle covered as I wasn't using it .Ive recharged the battery and put 20 litres (uk) of fuel in the tank which as I say was empty .

I've tried to turn over the engine ,it won't crank and it just clicks (tick tick tick tick) and the battery light flickers on an off .

Prior to this it would turn over .

Is 20 litres of fuel enough ? Is it this causing it not to crank or is my battery an issue ?

I had a refurbed alternator about 2 years ago .

I'm a newbie so I don't quite know where to start
Your help would be appreciated

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"click click click" is your starter solenoid, not engaging due to a fail solenoid or not enough voltage.

What is the voltage reading on the battery? Our cars really need 12.5+ but more importantly enough amps to crank the engine. I would pull the battery and have it tested at a FLAPS.

But before that, why not try to jump start her? If starter is the culprit, she will start right up with a gentle push and quick release of the clutch in gear ( 2nd or Reverse, depending on which way she is facing for a safe little run ), then place the ebrake and check he voltage of the battery while on it should read 13.8+
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If over 12.5 at rest, whack the solenoid with a BFH.
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Dead battery... Just because you charged it doesnt mean its good. Check the voltage WHILE cranking...
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That too but it requires you to go under the car safely and have a helper turn the key. make sure ebrake is up and in neutral. Use a long socket extension and the BFH.

It is located RHS rear wheel next to the heater flapper behind the CV axle.
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"click click click" is your starter solenoid, not engaging due to a fail solenoid or not enough voltage.

What is the voltage reading on the battery? Our cars really need 12.5+ but more importantly enough amps to crank the engine. I would pull the battery and have it tested at a FLAPS.

But before that, why not try to jump start her? If starter is the culprit, she will start right up with a gentle push and quick release of the clutch in gear ( 2nd or Reverse, depending on which way she is facing for a safe little run ), then place the ebrake and check he voltage of the battery while on it should read 13.8+

Draco ,thanks for reply .Im a complete newbie at some things 930 based so please bare with me if my questions sound well duffussy .

How do I check the voltage at the battery ? Do I do this disconnected from the car ? Using a multi meter ?

What the heck is having my battery tested at "Flaps"?

All help is greatly appreciated because the 930 is far more capable than I am at the moment
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If over 12.5 at rest, whack the solenoid with a BFH.

Where the solenoid on my 1983 930 and do I do it whilst cranking ?

Yes I know I appear dim

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Pics would be appreciated or links to other already posted ones

Thanks guys
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Solenoid is the sausage shaped appendage attached to the starter.
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They are notorious for sticking.
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Draco ,thanks for reply .Im a complete newbie at some things 930 based so please bare with me if my questions sound well duffussy .

How do I check the voltage at the battery ? Do I do this disconnected from the car ? Using a multi meter ?

What the heck is having my battery tested at "Flaps"?

All help is greatly appreciated because the 930 is far more capable than I am at the moment
Oh no Brother,

We all started from nothing at some point, you are doing the correct ting by even asking

FLAPS ( Friendly Local Auto Parts Store ), they can LOAD test the battery to insure the health of the battery and it Cold Crank Amps. I usually go to couple of FLAPS to make sure I get the same readings as I found the operator may be a dunce or the machine is in-accurate.

Yes, use a Multi-meter and with the battery in the car, place the probes right onthe terminals to get your base reading when cold or sitting over night.

Starter and Solenoid:


Tap or smack the smaller cylinder. while trying to start her.
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But before that, why not try to jump start her...
I think you had it here Brother Jim.

Derek...

You in driver's seat... car in second gear (some will prefer 1st) with clutch pushed in... ignition on... maybe 2 guys to help push car... get up some rolling speed and let clutch out.
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Thanks boys I will start with the battery and work my way from there ,let you know how I get on
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Derek, the very first thing you should do, as others suggested, is remove the battery from the car and take it to a local shop or auto parts store, and have them load test it. Even measuring resting battery voltage can be inconclusive (typical resting voltage of a 12v car battery is 12.4-12.6), as you can see proper voltage indicated on your multi-meter even when several cells in the battery are non-operational. By far, the most likely cause of your starter "click" is the battery not supplying enough amperage to the starter solenoid due to low charge or bad cells.
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test the battery and check your connections.....clean them
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Change the oil and filter before starting, once you have a good battery crank her a few times to get some oil pressure before starting.
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Get some jumper cables and give it a go.
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Thanks boys .I bought a multi meter and having charged the battery overnight and left it for around a day I tested it ,it's reading 10.55 volts �� I'm guessing my battery is kaput ? Need to buy a new one ?
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Oh my, Yes, battery is a goner.
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Well im thinking thats a good thing and hopefully new battery and easy fix .any suggestions on best battery to buy for a 1983 930 turbo ?

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