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Let's catalogue all the Fuchs repros
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! This post is meant to document what is available. Some of these may not be suitable for performance driving. ! The quality of each company's product, fitment and correct lugnuts for your application is up to you to research. Consider your wheel choice. Wheels undergo large forces and are subject to extreme temperatures. They even deform under cornering. They can crack causing dangerous results. A T�V, JWL, DOT or other certification may not guarantee a suitable product. In a performance environment, all wheels and suspension components should be frequently checked for cracks, bends, corrosion and other defects. X-ray imaging is the only way to show internal cracks and faults. All wheels can crack, including the original Fuchs. Incorrect lugnuts or other hardware can greatly accelerate wheel failure. Some of these companies could be fly-by-night with extremely questionable production methods. Several companies cast a wheel in the exact shape as the original. The shape of the original wheel was optimized for the full forging construction and was not designed to be constructed any other way. Wheels that use donor original centers can already be fatigued and accelerate failure. Several accounts of such failure have been reported. In the words of Pelican Palle7688, some replicas should be only "for your gardenhose." Ideally a replica wheel has been completely redesigned with construction methods and end use in mind. Again, the quality and fitment of each product here is up to you to research. ___________________ The Original: Otto Fuchs: Some original sizes still produced in batches (contact your dealer parts desk for info). I think these are the sizes still in production. I cannot say if these are constructed the same way as original equipment. Replicas: Braid: 15"-18" at various widths and offsets. Cast, unsure if center is welded to rolled lip. BRAID and Pelican Parts California Import Parts LTD.: 15" and 17". Note the different available bolt patterns. CIP Design911: 15". EB Motorsport: 15". EB Motorsport Euromeister: 16" and 17". Made in China. Read report of one breaking. Pelican Parts Fifteen52: 15"-18". 52 Outlaw Fikse: 17" and 18". 3-piece with hidden hardware. Originally designed by Zuffenhaus, now produced by Fikse. Fikse Wheels Flat 4: 15". Flat 4 Fuchs Performance: 19". Fuchs Performance Wheels. German Diamonds: 17" to 21" between two styles. Diamond R�der Group 4 Wheels: 15" ('67 R sizes). Group 4 Wheels Image Wheels: 15"-22." Image Wheels Iozzio Wheels: 17". Iozzio Wheels Jongbloed Racing for Accumoto: 15"-17". 3 piece. Accumoto Motorsport Kerscher: 17"-18". Kercher-Tuning. Lindsey Racing: 17"? Donor centers. Lindsey Racing Maxilite: 15" and 16". Maxilite OS-Design: 19". Wheel Dynamics. Otto Fuchs: 17"-19" high offset. Forged. According to H. Weidman via the Early S Registry, these are not 3D forged but milled from a forged cylinder. Otto Fuchs Rebel Racing Products: 17". Donor centers. Rebel Racing Products Rota: 17". Made in Phillipines. Also known as Linea Corse. Read report of one breaking IIRC. PelicanParts. Rotiform: 17"-22". Rotiform Wheels RS-Felgen: 15"-17", and 19"-20". RS-Felgen - FUX and RS-Felgen - FUX 19 Speedline for Porsche: 19". Cast. Available from your dealer parts desk or at Wheelenhancement SSP: 15" and 17". Note only some are T�V approved, unsure why. SSP Wheels. Starke Design: 16", 18" and 19". Cast. Tire Rack Tramont: 15"-20" between two styles. Possibly magnesium centers? Tramont Wheels TRE Motorsports: 15". 3-piece versions NLA? TRE Motorsports ___________________ A large amount of the original post is excluded to meet the character limit. For the full post see https://rennlist.com/forums/wheel-and-tire-forum/780707-let-s-catalogue-all-the-fuchs-repros.html ___________________ I have no affiliation with any of these companies. Information in this post may not be accurate. Pictures and names herein are property of their respectful owners. Special thanks to administrator Luccia at Pelican Parts, who helped edit this post. Be safe, have a good evening! Cheers ![]() Last edited by Luccia at Pelican Parts; 09-20-2017 at 07:26 AM.. |
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These are original Fuchs centers welded into BBS shells.
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You also have the Mille Miglia Italian made Cup 1 replicas in 7.5 and 9 x 17 inch ...
Very affordable and one would have to try pretty damn hard to break one of those ! I'll be using a set as track wheels this Summer ... Cheers ! Phil
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does braid make 17" ones?
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I thought that the Rota Fox and Linea Corsa were the same wheel? Am I wrong?
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Just wanted to mention an affordable option ...
One of my track buddies got some 8 and 9 x17 Zufs last year,stunning wheels ! Cheers ! Phil
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My Rota Fox wheels came with Linea Corsa wheel covers from the factory. I have zero complaints with these wheels so far.
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TruDesign, 16x7 Fuchs donor wheels. Excellent quality and Jim's service is top notch.
Not inexpensive but well worth the money. I originally was interested in the Zuffenhaus 17's but the delivery time on them was ridiculous. And they were (are) uber expensive as well. But they are nice looking wheels. Had time and expense not been a factor I might have gone in that direction but I have no regrets regarding the TruDesign wheels. Here's their site: True Design Wheel; Service & Repair Regarding cracking, if you intend to aggressively track your car regularly, buy some Fikses or BBS race wheels. Even those are not immune to eventual metal fatigue. I've had a bunch of Fuchs equipped Porsches in the past 40+ years and have never experienced a crack even when I was autocrossing regularly. IMO that "problem" is way overblown. ![]()
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How much are true design?
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Tru Design made but then sent away to have re-finished in RSR frosted.
Started with these 16s ![]() ![]() Got back this from Tru: ![]() ![]() Sent off to get a more frosted look: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Zuffenhaus 17" (9's and 11's).
Front wheel on my bathroom scale. I think it was about 17 lbs: ![]() Rear wheel on my bathroom scale. I think it was just under 18 lbs: ![]() Wheels on the car: ![]() ![]()
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Who does the Singer wheels? Are they 16's or 17's. I thought all the singer cars were 964 based so that means their wheels offsets are different than pre-carrera?
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I believe the Singers use Zuffenhaus.
EDIT: Here is a (Zuffenhaus) site that claims this is the case - http://www.zuffenhaus.eu/singer_911.html
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Both 17" fuchs - Both 17 x 9 and 17 x 11 Both have the same offset
True design 17" fuchs ![]() Tires are 245/275 for the track Zuffenhaus 17" Fuchs ![]() ![]() tires are 255/315 for the street
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Why the wider tires for the street? Aesthetics? Less concern about unsprung weight?
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My car weighs 2400 lbs - and up until 3 months ago had a 2.7l - so I was worried about being able to get heat into a bigger tire.
With the 3.6 - I have less worry about that now but need to use up these tires before up sizing.
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Please forgive my ignorance on the subject, but I was wondering about the specific case of Zuffenhaus/Lindsey/TruDesign, what are the differences among them if the core of them all are older Fuch centers? Wouldn't all three be prone to the same possible failures if the only difference among the three manufacturers are the barrels used? Does it make a difference if the donor wheel is a 16 x7 vs. a 16 x 6?
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I have a set of HRE Fuchs replicas. I've used them as track wheels since 1997. I weighed the 9x17s when I got them and they were 17 lbs.
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Lindsey/True Design made off old Fuchs centers - Typically welded although Lindsey does offer a bolted version - pretty sure it's called the "P2" Let me also add that all wheels can fail - three piece, 2 piece, welded, bolted, forged, cast, etc. The best defense is to inspect your wheels on a consistent basis and replace when needed. The increased usage in sticky tires and wider wheels put more load on the wheels, no matter who the manufacturer is.
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