Sway Bar Upgrade

[Steve W]

Originally Posted by dynosoar1

Have you ridden in a 22/29 setup? It seems that would definitely be a track setup....I only ask because I'm about to do torsion bars on my SC. 22/29 would want sport shocks all the way around and then with bigger sways you must be talking track stuff right?

I had Sanders hollow 22/29s in my other 3.2. I would say with the car at stock weight it's a upgraded street setup that you can take to the track on occasion, but not for serious track use. For street use the car still rides nicely with Bilstein Sports. For track use combined with 22mm adjustable front and rear sway bars the car still has a lot of lean in turns at the limit with street tires. With the car lightened by 300-400 lbs, then it can feel stiff on the road. For real track use, you'd want at minimum to consider something like 23/31, or preferably much stiffer.

[911pcars]

Increase the spring rate beyond a certain threshold and the chassis may flex and become a part of the overall spring rate - not recommended. A pre-964 cab, unless heavily fortified, is no match for a coupe that isn't all that rigid anyway.

Here's a lengthy discussion on chassis reinforcement:
Structural Reinforcement

Sherwood

[douglas bray]

Originally Posted by 911pcars

Increase the spring rate beyond a certain threshold and the chassis may flex and become a part of the overall spring rate - not recommended. A pre-964 cab, unless heavily fortified, is no match for a coupe that isn't all that rigid anyway.

Here's a lengthy discussion on chassis reinforcement:
Structural Reinforcement

Sherwood

LOL....You and I have obviously never been up a canyon together. At the risk of offending my local Asian gang, my lowly cab trounces the 964, 993, 996 cars I hang out with. One 964 guy commented Saturday that his car is 700#'s heavier than mine. My car may flex like James Dean's 550, but it makes up for it in other ways. And if I'm not mistaken the later cabs like mine have added stiffeners in the footwells.

[ClickClickBoom]

Originally Posted by douglas bray

LOL....You and I have obviously never been up a canyon together. At the risk of offending my local Asian gang, my lowly cab trounces the 964, 993, 996 cars I hang out with. One 964 guy commented Saturday that his car is 700#'s heavier than mine. My car may flex like James Dean's 550, but it makes up for it in other ways. And if I'm not mistaken the later cabs like mine have added stiffeners in the footwells.

Never underestimate the driver in the overall equation.

[Driven97]

Imagine how fast you'd go in a non wet noodle.

[douglas bray]

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Never underestimate the driver in the overall equation.

Originally Posted by Driven97

Imagine how fast you'd go in a non wet noodle.

LOL....Thank you...I needed that.

Just sliding out from under my car. Eibach sway bar is in. Love the bar,

Other than that, I'm sure I'll love it.

Oh, and the Eibach was one pound heavier than the stock bar....so my car now weighs in at 2,541#'s...

[Ryan H]

Originally Posted by douglas bray

Other than that, I'm sure I'll love it.

Oh, and the Eibach was one pound heavier than the stock bar....so my car now weighs in at 2,541#'s...

thanks!

[douglas bray]

OK, I'm gonna go cool off and likely regret the hit piece I just posted. For the price I have zero reason to complain. It would seem that when compared to the bars that are $675 each, Eibach could offer machined brackets at $100/set and still be hundreds under the price of the competition.

[douglas bray]

Originally Posted by Ryan H

Doug, next time call me direct: 951-256-8434

Kid at the desk is filling in. Sorry about that. We owe you a shirt

I won a shirt at Eibachtoberfest.....an awesome Bleu one. I just need to take a deep breath and edit out my frustrations.

[3rd_gear_Ted]

I found the calculator at the Sway Away web site is helpful when you get around to figuring what spring rate your sway bars will add to each end of the car.

[ISGASA]

Hello Douglas

We will add a billet aluminum bracket to the rear. I will send you a PM and we can set up an appointment to mount it on your car.

Sorry about the frustration

Christian at Eibach

[douglas bray]

Originally Posted by ISGASA

Hello Douglas

We will add a billet aluminum bracket to the rear. I will send you a PM and we can set up an appointment to mount it on your car.

Sorry about the frustration

Christian at Eibach

Hey, sorry I blew off a bit of steam that should have been kept to myself. The OE bracket was also stamped steel so I should just be OK with it.....but it seems like the perfect place to showcase something better. This isn't a Skunk2 car, it's a Porsche......and you could easily raise your price point and still be well under the competition.

[douglas bray]

Well I am now a VERY HAPPY customer.

Prior to me buying my car 10 years ago the passenger side sway bar mount had been replaced with a new stamped factory replacement part. In fact, the paper part no tag was still on it. It was cheap and thin and only had small bolts welded to it. It was due to fail and did when I went to tighten down the new bushing from Energy Suspension, the bushing included in the Eibach kit, I stripped the threads.

At some point, 7 or 8 years ago my original driver's side mount had ripped off so I replaced it with a WEVO I got from Rennsport Systems. Well, now both sides of the car have the same WEVO mounting points. I had the car level and used the same dial indicator used to set spring plate angle to duplicate the left side angle on the new right side. The frame is rounded and has no firm placement location so getting them identical is up to you.

Ok, so mid-week I got the bar on....adjustable drop links made it even easier.

Yesterday I texted a local buddy at 5:30 AM and found my way to the Corona C&C at Saleen Mustang. Car was flawless all the way there. Seemed a bit harsh but that was tire pressure. Lowered the pressure to 2.5 bars (35 psi) and it was perfect. Using the closest holes on the bar the car is flat. Absolutely no roll what so ever. Ended up going to Lake Elsinore with some PCA guys then home for a bit. Later headed up Baldy road several times. Slight push, just enough. Car is better than expected. No tram-lining, no increase in input needed, just a nice firm resistance to rolling in the turns. Non-existent going down the road then a very noticable difference when pushed hard in the turns. I love it.

Christian at Eibach has invited me to come in later this week to test out some billet bushing brackets. Can't wait.

[sp_cs]

Nice work, your experience aligns perfectly with mine with 23/22 FF/RR setup - no downsides.

[douglas bray]

Originally Posted by sp_cs

Nice work, your experience aligns perfectly with mine with 23/22 FF/RR setup - no downsides.

This may be the excuse I was looking for to swap out my 21MM front T-bars in favor of 22MM.

Anybody want some 21MM Sway a Way fronts w/5k miles at 60% off?

[ISGASA]

Great to hear. We will have the aluminum bracket in a week. There will also be a billet aluminum bracket for the front bar.

We are gone to SEMA the next few days. Stop by at our booth, if any of you are there and have questions about the kits. Ask for Ryan or myself.'

Christian

[Mark Salvetti]

Originally Posted by douglas bray

This may be the excuse I was looking for to swap out my 21MM front T-bars in favor of 22MM.

Anybody want some 21MM Sway a Way fronts w/5k miles at 60% off?

Doug, I would love your front 21mm torsion bars. I'm upgrading the Targa to 21F/27R at Steve Weiner's suggestion. I already have a set of rears that I bought from Randy Webb on Rennlist.

I'll send you a PM.

Mark

[TAV]

Where can we purchase these new Eibach anti-roll bars from?

thanks

[tirwin]

Originally Posted by TAV

Where can we purchase these new Eibach anti-roll bars from?

thanks

Yes, curious about these as well. Didn’t see them on the website.

[Ryan H]

Originally Posted by tirwin

Yes, curious about these as well. Didn’t see them on the website.

Hey Fellas,

Until they are up on our web site free free to shoot me a line with questions or if you'd like to order.

rhoegner@eibach.com

- The 964 bars are in stock and can ship immediately.
- The G body bars are complete, but the hardware is about 4 weeks out.