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IMO most of the time, OE is good. Only difference is Porsche has not actually touched it. Read about dog teeth, however. |
Evan,
Good luck with the project. I know that there should be no shortage of frosty beverages in the man cave. regards, al |
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Evan; here you go...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/471002-915-p259-tool-measurement-request-pics.html?highlight=Tool+915+diff I know that you'll see it in my Tutorial, but don't skim past Post #45! |
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One step closer! Its not spotless but a whole lot cleaner then it was, now mounted on the stand and ready for dissassembly. Just waiting on an old clutch disc from a friend so I can make a P37a main shaft locking tool and I'll start tearing it down. Can't wait!
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You don't need a locking tool for disassembly if you have an impact wrench. Just buzz off the two big nuts. You can either use a rag to jamb the gears or put it in two gears at once.
If you read this thread, he found a method to disassemble without loosening the shift forks on the rods. http://www.pelicanparts.com/MotorCity/marcesq3/TrannyRebuild.htm edit: corrected link |
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I've seen Gordo and others reference not loosening the shift forks so I'll give that a go. Your link didn't work btw. |
Here is the thread I was linking to. Worth a read. Lot's of DIY info and short cuts.
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Been watching your progress but not compelled to comment considering you're hearing from some very experienced experts on the board. I locked the shafts using a clutch as a P37a. Started with bolted up configuration, but ended up welding something up something resembling the actual P37a. I found myself using it for a few steps during rebuild and decided to make it easier/faster to install & remove each time. I used the clutch/lock and a regular socket (from local auto parts store) to remove the nuts with an air impact. The sockets were huge / heavy duty, so I wasn't concerned that it wasn't hardened impact socket material - I think if the socket did fail, it would just split the socket. Safety glasses are always a good idea working with impact wrenches… Doing great - take your time and enjoy. Gordo |
Obviously it was time to poop or get off the can, so I plowed through the first two parts of Peter's tutorial today!
No carnage, just worn syncros to see so far. First and second gear dogs are rounded off a bit but nowhere near what I was expecting. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509833787.JPG Everything in order as instructed. Away down! I took my own route here and removed both detents, then pulled both shafts out with the forks and selectors in one clump. (Didn't loosen the 1-2 shift fork in other words.) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509833787.JPG Only one head scratcher. The tutorial doesn't mention pulling out this shaft with the gear. Luckily there is a photo with it removed so I figured it out. Needed persuasion to move out of the way. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509833787.JPG http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509833787.JPG Uh oh. We all know what this means. Looks like the machine shop will be getting some work! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509833787.JPG Is this heat bluing I see two places? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509835189.JPG http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509835189.JPG Got the diff out. Carrier bearings look the same on both sides. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509835306.JPG Thats it for now. Good night everyone! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509835447.JPG |
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509887364.jpg Here is a link discussing it the clutch disc change. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/657659-whats-new-sachs-clutch-discs.html |
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Some more bits:
1-2 spider. The wear can't be felt, only seen: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509907839.JPG 1st gear needle bearing and bushing. I'm going to have to make a decision on replacing these if anyone has wisdom to share: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509907954.JPG http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509907954.JPG |
OK, I'll chime in.
That fifth synchro band is toast. However, some mechanics will move a good used one in there with good results. I doubt you need a new 5-R slider, but you might want to check it carefully considering the condition of the synchro. That 1st gear dog teeth set is showing wear, probably not worth trying to reuse it. Check the inner bearing race on your 5th gear. Any lines, you will need to replace the gear. That needle bearing looks great. Unless they show wear or damage, they can be reused. That spider looks good, as do your brake bands. That 1 - 2 slider is best replaced with the synchros. |
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http://www.connact.com/~kgross/FAQ/assets/backlash4.jpg http://www.connact.com/~kgross/FAQ/assets/backlash3.jpg You can see the lines drawn on the tool. From the center, the line should be 96 mm from the center for a 915 transmission: 80 mm per the workshop manual's instruction for setting the VW 388, plus 16 mm for half the width of the VW 521/4 locking sleeve. I would use an allen bolt and a long allen socket as shown in the second photo for easy of use in attaching the tool: unless you are lucky, you will iterate several times to get the preload and free-play (backlash) just right. The "U" for the tool should be just wide enough to sit across the differential side sleeve, but not so wide that it hits the case. I hope this is helpful. |
It's always hard to judge from photos, but the fourth photo showing gear teeth, are the teeth really as scratched up as they appear? Concerning.
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