It's been over 2 years since I had my FabRSRHeat headers on and off, so I can't say for sure. Maybe mine silicone tube came with the silver heat wrap. I'm sure if Paul is paying attention (Have you had your first cup of java?) he can answer this.

From what I can see you almost have your solution, and if not it looks pretty easy to finalize.

I'd suggest you contact Paul at Fab simply ask him ..... if you try to install the silicone air distributor tube (replacement for the factory metal tube 930-211-335-00) alike what Duc has on his car, removing the rubber bushing boot (factory pn 930-211-337-01) from the rear engine tin cover, do you need to fabricate a metal tube will rolled beads on each end to insert into the silicone boot to mate up with the air manifold (factory pn 930-211-341-03) which is between your auxiliary heater blower motor in the engine bay. Duc's engine is amazingly clean by the way.

And, ask Paul if you mess up their black silicone air distributor tube on your first pass, will they supply you another at no charge. Don't forget to ask for a free tee shirt and some stickers to put on your tool box. I think we will start including the "Built by Hand" stickers with all our products soon.

Thanks again Duc!

Unfortunately my silicon hose (as you can see in my original post), is too far off to the left for me to fit it anywhere near the opening from the engine tin.

I'd definitely say that if you were able to fit yours on.... then without a doubt, I was sent a defective unit.

I'm just glad to see I'm NOT the only one in the ENTIRE WORLD that has this product.... unfortunately it looks like the hose he has is completely different than the one I was given. :( Obviously if he can get his to fit, then it isn't the same as mine.

I'm just going to have to mark this one off as Fabspeed =1, Trakrat = 0 and walk away from this.

the old saying "Buyer Beware" applies here.

Sorry to read you are giving up.

It was was an interesting thread.... solving a simple mechanical problem with input from the PP community.

My experience with fabspeed was similar to the OPs. Product didn't fit, their CS person blamed me, then my mechanic, denied any wrongdoing, yet eventually recrafted the bracket to different dimentions, and sent a totally different muffler strap, neither of which fit the first time around. Even after the new parts were shipped, the CS person blamed suppliers and anyone else he could, but never apologized or took responsibility. I would never recommend Fabspeed. Talk to arguable the most respected aircooled shop here in LA, and they agreed wholeheartedly based on their many efforts trying to install their products on customer cars. ymmv.

Missed this. No it was not hacked at all. that is just a layer of heat resistant tape on the silicon hose. I was worried about eh proximity of the muffler to that part of the hose.

I almost needed a defibrillator from laughing so hard at this one!

I've probably had 1/2 dozen different exhaust systems on my 3.2. I recall after I got the primary headers bolted on the exhaust studs, and got the muffler hung on the bracket on the back of the motor support, with some systems I had to push up a bit on the headers to meet up with the muffler.

Looking a Duc's pic below, the "T" section of the silicone boot is nearly vertical or a right angle. And, it appears the metal tube exiting the engine tin is vertical as well.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522500898.jpg

Trakrat's picture (which does not have the muffler installed or connected), has the "T" of the silicone boot on a obtuse angle 60/120, and the original metal tube from the factory exhaust is in place .

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522501022.jpg


Looking at Trackrat's picture again it might seem the headers are hanging low, maybe a moot point.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522501257.jpg


So, I wonder if anyone whom has had this "silicone boot alignment issue" has ever hung the complete exhaust system, and then replaced the factory metal pipe that exists the rear engine tin with the piece that Fabspeed shows in their product picture, and twisted the "T" on the silicone near vertical to meet up with the tube.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522501624.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522501725.jpg

Just to help you understand what you are seeing... The metal tube is NOT factory, but is Fabspeed's metal tube (the same metal tube in their promotional image of their exhaust).
Porsche's design actually has it an angle (as again can be seen in Fabspeed's promotional picture of their exhaust), it's not designed to be straight up and down (vertical). To get it vertical (as in Duc's pic) puts too much force onto the plastic heating duct that goes up to the blower. However, his silicon hose is different than the one I was given. If I could have gotten it even straight up and down, then I would have simply said "at least it fits" and moved on. Simply stated.... it's a poor design.

I've lined up the heater hose on an earlier 911 SC with a 3.0 and it fits perfectly. It simply is not made for a 3.2.

No sense in measuring it, analyzing it, debating it, etc...

Simply put, Fabspeed won't fix it... they want their customers to fix it. That's piss poor business model there.

Move on kuehl... I've moved on... I've given up. Nothing got resolved the first time I complained about this issue... and nothing got resolved the 2nd time I complained about this issue. :(:(

(fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me)

Okay Trakrat,

I won't rain on your parade.


fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me
ahhhh, nearly George Horne.

Almost as good as:

A whisky glass or a woman's ass will make a jackass out of any man.

I agree it looks like a poor fit. But... Doesn't Paul @Fabspeed want to work with you to get a correct part sent/created/etc? Or to get to the bottom of this? That's all we can see from this side of the monitor.

Trakrat

Cleaning out the attic I came across some parts you could probably use if you decide to keep the Fabspeed system and connect the heater box silicone.

It the appears the end of the factory plastic blower tube (which connects to the aux heater blwr mtr in the engine bay) has an OD close to 3". You can find lots of 3" silicone boots and aluminum tube, commonly used on intakes and intercoolers.

So I have some pcs of 3" OD aluminum tube and a few straight and 45 degree silicone boots you might be able to use. Let me know and I'll ship them off to you.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1524058789.jpg

FABSPEED issues
 

Seeing how TRAKRAT got beat up for mentioning his problems with FS I decided to join in with my recent experience with the same group. I purchased a nicely welded & polished oil catch tank for my early 930 recently only to find that it would not bolt up to the turbo without interfering with the turbo exhaust collector pipe. I sent an email & photos
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1528415800.jpg

to FS & promptly got this reply:

Thank you for the photos. I have forwarded them to Phil and our customer service advocate, Brian. One of them should be reaching out to you shortly. Thank you!
Best,
Laura Mullelly | Administrative Assistant
Laura@Fabspeed.com
P: 215-646-4945 | F: 215-646-9828

I then received a message from the "customer service advocate":

Thomas,
"Thank you for the pictures, they are helpful indeed.
I am not able to change the angle to allow for extra clearance".
Many thanks,

Brian Jamison | Customer Service Advocate
Brian@Fabspeed.com

So I went upstream to Jason Bartelstone and attached a photo of the misalignment:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1528416593.jpg

Jason,
Attached please find photos & documentation of my recent purchase of item # 023-0930-00..., oil catch tank for my 930. Please note the offset between the flange and the bolt pattern preventing attachment without interference with the turbo delivery pipe. I have also attached a copy of the most recent email I received from your Customer Service Advocate. Is this tank correctly fabricated for this application? The quality of the materials and fabrication are excellent so I'm trying to understand what is incorrect here so that I can proceed...

and subsequently received a reply from Phillip Janssen, performance specialist:

"I think it is the heat wrap that is causing the issue".

Thank You,
Phillip Janssen | Performance Specialist

OK... now I know that the "performance specialist" has an amazing grasp of the obvious but apparently did not notice that, had the flange been aligned correctly, there would have been plenty of room for all components, even the heat wrap. Since the subject of customer service came up in this thread and there appear to be different ideas of what it is, I want to point out that, in TRAKRAT's & my cases "customer service"it does not involve FS helping to correct the problem. There has been no offer of a refund or effort to address the misalignment. I was sent a photo of an engine in the FS showroom that has a similar problem but since there is no heat wrap in place it does barely clear the delivery pipe. So, as far as I'm concerned, the one on the display model has too little clearance as well unless your goal is to coke up the turbo oil by placing the catch tank so close to the collector pipe. And what is a "customer service advocate"? These issues are self evident. So TRAKRAT, I'm with you but if we are inventing new terms for customer service personnel at FS, I vote for "customer service weasel".

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