Need tranny rebuild help

[Brant]

good morning James and all..
Can someone with ring and pinion or tranny experience answer a question for me?
I'm trying to do a quick/easy rebuild. Victim tranny reputably has a whinning bearing noise... suspect that its the intermediate plate bearing....

what would happen if I took a full gear stack (including intermediate plate) out of a known good box and put into this case?

how good/bad is this going to be? I'm concerned that the R/P depth will no longer be correctly adjusted?

Please Help...
brant

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

The ring and pinion are a matched set. It's generally not a good idea to mess up that pairing.

--DD

[red-beard]

Exactly.

Better to take it apart and inspect everything. Try my article, you can yank the stack with the tranny still in the car and the CV's still attached.

James

[Brant]

Ok... If I switch boxes then.. say that I'm going to refreshen a tail shifter box.. and steal the shift rods out of this bad bearing side shifter...
what tricks do you have (advice) to realign and reuse the side shifter rods into a tail box.

brant

[red-beard]

Pull the trannies out of the car, and pull the stacks.

Put both stack onto separate towels. Yes you need towels and don't use the good one. I will not take blame for your wife killing you over using the best towels since "Red-beard told me to..."

On the edge of the intermediate plate, there is a 14 mm cover. Remove this and don't loose the springs. Now loosen the 13mm bolts on each internal shift rod and reomve the shift rods, noting where each one goes. As you pull the rods out, you will see springs, 2 balls and 1 pellet looking thing fall out of the intermediate plate. Aren't you glad they fell on the towel and didn't roll away. Match the sideshift shift rods and 1/2 moon looking things and move them to the tailshift tranny.

The hardest part here is getting the balls and springs back into the intermediate plate in the right spots. My article has pictures.

Aligning. It is easiest with the special tool. I use a long square rod to line up the rods and rod surfaces. Once aligned, tighten the bolts.

Since you're doing the whole thing, I'd go ahead and install all new seals.

James

[Brant]

Red beard,

I have the pelican shift fork alignment tool, but what do you use the additional long square rod for?

tia
brant

[red-beard]

The alignment tool hold the shift rods and the gear stack straight. The rod is used to actually align the shift rods to each other, so they line up.

James

[Brant]

makes sense.. Now I've got a new question.
your article mentions a picture or discussion about the balls/springs/and pill inside the intermediate plate (between the shift rods)...

I can't find the diagram.
can you tell me the order?
(the last 2-3 items fell out of course)

I'm thinking it goes: ball-spring-ball-pill-ball-spring-ball ?

thanks a ton
(I am so screwed.......)
brant

[red-beard]

4th-5th shift rod, ball, spring with stick inside, ball, 2nd-3rd shiftrod, metal pill, 1st-rev shiftrod, ball, spring, 14mm cover.

See my answer on the "other" board.

James