87 trany problem

flmont · 05-10-2010, 07:32 PM

I was interested in a 87 944 N/A car but it seems that it runs but wont move,..has something to do with a tube thats molded in to the tranny case, that I guess bent or broke the shift fork. would love a little info on this problem before I make a offer ???? Thanks Frank

SolReaver · 05-10-2010, 08:41 PM

Ok, runs but doesn't move....first of all, DON'T pay a lot for it. Second, understand that Clutches are expensive on this model, perhaps more than the car is worth unless you do it yourself. Are you good with a wrench?
Do you have a garage and a week to spare?
Do you have about a grand for the parts?

Additionally, the timing belts will need to be done if they are over 3 years old, and that can get pricey as well, but it is not as bad as a clutch. well, usually, Again it depends on what needs to be done.

A tube that is molded to the transmission?? well there is a shift linkage tube on TOP of the transmission...and there is a "torque tube?" that runs from the engine to the transaxle. First check the clutch lever travel while someone operates the clutch. see Clarks garage for details.

Honestly though, We need more information here...What shape is it in, how long has it been sitting, why is it being sold and not fixed....you know the drill. Pics are nice as well. BTW, rebuilding the engine is a bout a grand as well, could be less, could be more, depends on what is wrong with it. The engines are pretty tough...why rebuild it?

SolReaver · 05-10-2010, 08:44 PM

Sorry, re read your OP, If the tranny needs to be done (shift fork?) it is not all that expensive, figger about 5 bills. It COULD be the linkage at the tranny, those DO go sometimes...Take a peek up there and let us know what it looks like. There IS this little bolt that comes out sometimes and screws stuff up, THAT is a cheap fix. The linkage if gone would be not too expensive as long as the transmission is good.

flmont · 05-10-2010, 09:52 PM

Thanks solreaver,...The guy said he was getting on the interstate was shifting and lost the pedal,..after he pulled the starter he found what looked like pieces of the shift tube but it broke off from the tranny(meaning he thinks the molded tranny part snapped and thats why he lost the shifting he said car ran fine until this,..87' 944 N/A miles unknown at this point he is cking wants 2500.00 ??...broke which is I tow home,..as for the wrenching did a top end on a 911 succesfully,..I always wanted a 944 (dont know much about them yet!!) but wanted to start learning.however dont want to learn the hard way either LOL Thanks Frank

SolReaver · 05-11-2010, 06:00 AM

Well, if he took the starter out and found chunks....I am going to speculate that he lost an original "hockey puck" molded rubber clutch disk. There are no transmission pieces there, possibly torque tube, but not likely. Yeah, If you are handy you can low budget the clutch job and just replace the friction plate, BUT there may be (and usually are) complications. The procedure is pretty well written up in Clarks Garage. Booked at 30 hours, For a first timer, yea, I am going to stick with a week. It MAY take you a couple of days just to get to the clutch, and so a lot of people get everything new to never have to go in there again. It is a MAJOR WYAIT job.

2500...????...With a bad clutch??? (assuming that is what is wrong with it.) Man is he smoking something , OR WHAT? yea, CLutch and Timing belt costs are what kill these things, you can find lots of em out there on the cheap if you are prepared to do the freakin work and to tell you the truth they are sweet cars.

If he hasn't done the timing belts AND has proof such as receipts, etc...Sad to say the car isn't worth much. It may take him a while to notice that the world is not beating a path to his door. IF the body and interior are (really) nice....maybee...a grand or so, give or take. But currently it is a 3K or 4K car that needs 2500 (or more) in work. Math is a cruel beeyatch like that.

An AIR COOLED man...come to chat with us bubble heads eh? well, I like my 924S better than the 914 I used to have, but the 914 was sweet as well. These are a whole other kinda car. They take some getting used to, but if you want we can show ya around. Check out Clarks and lurk about for a bit. If you want to do some work on a 944 there WILL be ample opportunity in the future...TRUST ME on this one, Cheers.

ernie9944 · ernie9944's Garage

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Originally Posted by SolReaver

Sorry, re read your OP, If the tranny needs to be done (shift fork?) it is not all that expensive, figger about 5 bills. It COULD be the linkage at the tranny, those DO go sometimes...Take a peek up there and let us know what it looks like. There IS this little bolt that comes out sometimes and screws stuff up, THAT is a cheap fix. The linkage if gone would be not too expensive as long as the transmission is good.

This is the shift linkage SolReaver is talking about,the shifte rod that connect to your linkage come througt the hole, (A) is where it couple to the linkage do not over torque that bolt also it should be secure with a wire that lock it in place. Check all the bolts "A B C & D" access at those is difficult so take your time ,if you got a hoist it's butter in the pan to check them.

SolReaver · 05-11-2010, 11:20 AM

Yes Earnie, that is exactly the bolt I am talking about. It is a 10mm 6x1 threaded SPECIAL bolt with a hole in the head for the wire and a funny shaped tip to sit inside the dimple on the linkage rod. IIRC, You are not supposed to re use them, torque to spec, locktite, and wire them. These little details are often omitted and eventually.....well you know the REST of the story.. Which reminds me...I need to order another as I used the last one I had.

I was leaning towards a bad hockey puck as chunks are coming out the starter hole. (never a good sign)

Flmont: A clutch is one hec of a way to start in with this car...BUT, a good clutch will give you 100K or more it IS do able, just a lot of work and if you can keep up with the PM, these engines can last forever. We are talking about 20 something year old sports cars...they are gonna need SOMETHING. YOU have seen the car...we haven't. Make your call.