Suspension Refresh(Questions)

[billy mild]

I am looking to finally after 2 year redo the front suspension on my car. Car is mostly driven on the street, may seen an autocross this year if I can get everything done to it.

So the questions are:
1. Where to get bushings for the front control arms?(Swaybar, control arms) Can I get M030 rubber bushings for my car? (Are refurbing the arms really $500?)
2. Will 200 lb springs work well with Koni Strut Inserts?
3. Are the VW Fox strut mounts okay for the 86 951?
4. List of components to be replaced/fixed: Strut inserts, new front springs, control arm bushings/ball joints. Is there anything else I am missing on the front suspension?

A separate project will be to swap out my steering rack as mine is just puking fluid.

[Gawernator]

Available here, of course! Porsche 924S/944/968 Suspension - Page 4

Sure you can look around though...

200 should work, I'm at 250 and it's quite a nice ride with the Koni 1038S inserts set to half firm (Koni race shocks rear)

Check for tie rod play? Just replaced mine, some inner play and one torn boot. Check your strut mount bearings for play or seizing etc

Swaybar bushings? Possible size upgrade? You could get these for cheap http://www.rennbay.com/porsche-944-front-sway-bar-braces-p-125.html

[billy mild]

I will be sticking with stock swaybars for now. In the future I may upgrade to the M030 swaybars.

Tie rod play should be 0 since I replaced the whole tie rods on both sides last year along with my front wheel bearings

[Rasta Monsta]

Headed for a common mistake. . .increasing the front spring rate and leaving the rears alone will make the car push. Turn in at AutoX could be particularly bad.

T-bars - much ado about nothing, not that big a deal.

[billy mild]

Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta

Headed for a common mistake. . .increasing the front spring rate and leaving the rears alone will make the car push. Turn in at AutoX could be particularly bad.

T-bars - much ado about nothing, not that big a deal.

This is about the front suspension. Later I will think about redoing the torsion bars/carrier.

[Rasta Monsta]

I must have misunderstood. Thought you were wanting to AX the car. Mods you are contemplating will FUBAR the handling.

[Gawernator]

Another reason I would recommend 220/250 etc springs... And in the rear either larger torsion bars or replace with coilover spring or both

[guru944]

Billy M;
Consider Polyurethane sway bar bushings and endlinks for both front and rear. This will help minimize body roll, especially around at +15mph cornering. In expensive upgrade(s) Energy Suspension, Prothane and Ricochet make sutable upgrades. Verify (measure with Vernier Caliper) what MM bars you have before you order. Your local Autozone or Lindsey Racing are good sources...

Keep us posted, Later...

[guru944]

For all;
Great site for suspension upgrades & These guys are serious....

ELEPHANT RACING Tech Topic, Polyurethane Bushings and Friction

Later

[Gawernator]

Autozone has sway bars for a 944? ...???

[guru944]

Gawernator:

You got me! Ha. Ha.! Let me clarify, Autozone for the bushings Energy suspension Polyurethane Bushings (End links and inner bracket bushings for front & Rear).

Paid ~ $34.00 for a pair of Rear greasable Poly's for my 944 last year... Imagine that..

Later...

[billy mild]

Originally Posted by guru944

Gawernator:

You got me! Ha. Ha.! Let me clarify, Autozone for the bushings Energy suspension Polyurethane Bushings (End links and inner bracket bushings for front & Rear).

Paid ~ $34.00 for a pair of Rear greasable Poly's for my 944 last year... Imagine that..

Later...

Do you have part numbers for these bushings? Sounds cheaper than the other poly bushings. What about the front of the aluminum control arms any idea on this bushing?

[Gawernator]

Yes, I'm curious too. Could switch to those when my rubber dies, maybe

[guru944]

Enjoy all...

Prothane Link:
Universal Product Guide Page 1 | Prothane

Energy Suspension Link:
energysuspension.com | Sway Bar & End Link Bushings

Porsche Shop Link:
Porsche 944 Suspension Upgrades | Wishbone Bushes & Shock Absorber Dampers UK

Lindsey Racing:
SOLID BUSHINGS KIT at LINDSEY RACING - Your Porsche Performance Parts Center
Later.

[Gawernator]

Anyways. You're still not addressing the fact that you can't change the front without matching in the rear without screwing things up.

[billy mild]

Originally Posted by Gawernator

Anyways. You're still not addressing the fact that you can't change the front without matching in the rear without screwing things up.

If you didn't read my previous post. I am currently only doing the front. I will get the rear after the front has been sorted. I have the front suspension, plus steering rack I need to do first. After that has been completed then I will move to the rear.

[Gawernator]

It's something that needs to be changed at the same time

[Rasta Monsta]

Give it up, he isn't listening.