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The 82, as of today, is running like a ......

...striped ape!

One bottle of Amsoil P.I seems to have cured it of it's slowness. It hauls ass now.

Got my seat, windows and sunroof fixed today. No more duct tape and plastic sheeting.

it's awesome to be able to drive the car in the correct position, instead of barely being able to reach the pedals and steering wheel.

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Its not the stripes that make an ape fast, or the oil that makes a 928 fast, but enjoy while its hot. Some wire got wiggled, etc. and eventually it will need finding.
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That's funny. I really do think this car has some serious potential.

The previous owner, although he garaged it, did nothing else to it. It's responding well to my attention, and cleanliness is key to all my previous successes.
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It finally dawned on me that all the seat switches are interchangeable. I robbed a switch and the bezel from the passenger side to get my driver seat functional. I've got a replacement bezel with one good switch coming from eBay this week for the passenger side.

I may have to replace the sunroof switch. I was messing with it and finally got the sunroof closed by manually operating the contacts inside (after I first blew a fuse trying to figure out which contacts were which), and after cleaning out the switch of all that black gunk, I may have bent the contact pieces out of spec so they don't both make contact at the right time. Oh well, at least it's closed. It can wait.

I found an oddity in the electrical panel. It's a male connector with one probe contact, and the female end separated, the male end had tape wrapped around it. See below. I don't know what it's for. Any ideas?

I found out that my kick-down switch works as advertised. I got my seat working, so I was able to finally sit properly behind the wheel, and was able to mash the throttle all the way to the floor. Very powerful effect.

I've noticed that my door-opening lights (red) seem to be unaffected by any switch that I depress. I wonder if they're staying on all the time. If so, that would explain why the previous owner installed a fresh battery right before I picked up the car. Gotta love that reasoning: don't fix the car, just change the battery.

Oh well, it's coming along just fine, and I'm really enjoying this 928. I know a lot of you believed that I would just flip the car and that I didn't really have any passion for the 928. I do have passion for the 928, I was simply acting out my frustrations from buyer's remorse by having bought a car from an incompetent person.


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I think that's the O2 sensor input, which goes through the floor around there someplace.

Pin switches in the doors are often bad/need cleaning, also the light switches have three positions, always on, off, and door.

Just call them PO, makes for more compact cursing.
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PO bashing

Malifico, I am going to go out on a limb and defend the PO on this one. Yea, there were things not done, But the car was kept garaged and relatively clean. Besides, it is better that a PO doesn't do anything rather than pull things apart and mess things up. What I am saying is that although the car was not pampered and could have had more attention...at least it was not MOLESTED or brought to a cut rate mechanic for improper servicing. All in all, It could be a lot worse.

As far as running better....These things love to run. You will find an increase in performance by shaking out the "lot rot" and running a few good tanks of gas through the system, bringing the engine to temp, etc. Watch for cracking seals and rubber, inspect the fuel lines...well..you know the drill.
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That green wire with ceramic insulator and protruding pin is interesting. I observe what appears to be some heating (brown discoloration on the end near the pin). What could cause this heating, may help figure out where it goes??....

Have you traced the lead back to where it connects at the control panel...by finding the connection point you can (should be able to, if a Porsche element) go through the wiring diagram and determine the device.

I do not see this in my humble '79. Who has a similar '82, IIRC you have Ljet not CIS? Your help is needed, unless this is some aftermarket non-oem add-on.
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adding: the wire looks larger gage than a lot of wires at the CP and even could be single strand by the way it appears
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I couldn't find an O2 sensor anywhere on the exhaust. I did find a plugged port on the cat which looks like it might be a test port.
The ECU says Jetronic on it's side.

The instrument panel has an idiot light that says OXS, I presume that means I should have a sensor somewhere.
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A port on Cat means there could be a O2 sensor for your application. IIRC, the '82 has one sensor between the two pipe inlets forward top-side.

Those with your model need to help better than I can. I do not know where the sensor goes but it would have more than one wire from it.
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The oxygen sensor is mounted in the top of the cat.

If not installed, the car will run fine in what is termed "open loop", but the mix won't be controlled perfectly for emmissions control. Others can fill-in the details for you or search rennlist.

The wire(s) for the O2 sensor pass out the transmission tunnel, under the carpet, near the CE panel. There should be a rubber plug that the wires pass through. If the sensor is gone the female connector is gone with it.

You will not have another connection on the car, a pair of wires ending in half of a black rectangular plug terminal. That's for the embedded O2 sensor heater, but it didn't get added until the 83 MY.
The right oxygen sensor for the car will plug directly into the connector you show. Go to your shop manuals, which you have for the car, to wiring diagrams, section 97 page 97-123, unfold it, and you will see only the green wire connection for the O2 sensor. Go to page 97-159 to see the set-up for 83 models. Two extra wires for a heater to make the oxygen sensor more viable earlier in the warmup cycle for the car.

You may be able also to buy a universal sensor. Check with Roger Tyson, that is where you will probably get the best price, original at least.

I don't bash previous owners much. You in particular should celebrate the fact that the vehicle was preserved, not adulterated by them or any yahoo mechanic. Bigtime.
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Malifico, I am going to go out on a limb and defend the PO on this one. Yea, there were things not done, But the car was kept garaged and relatively clean. Besides, it is better that a PO doesn't do anything rather than pull things apart and mess things up. What I am saying is that although the car was not pampered and could have had more attention...at least it was not MOLESTED or brought to a cut rate mechanic for improper servicing. All in all, It could be a lot worse.

As far as running better....These things love to run. You will find an increase in performance by shaking out the "lot rot" and running a few good tanks of gas through the system, bringing the engine to temp, etc. Watch for cracking seals and rubber, inspect the fuel lines...well..you know the drill.

I guess I should quit *****ing.

It is a joy to drive (as of yesterday). And it gets better every time I drive it.
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The oxygen sensor is mounted in the top of the cat.

If not installed, the car will run fine in what is termed "open loop", but the mix won't be controlled perfectly for emmissions control. Others can fill-in the details for you or search rennlist.

The wire(s) for the O2 sensor pass out the transmission tunnel, under the carpet, near the CE panel. There should be a rubber plug that the wires pass through. If the sensor is gone the female connector is gone with it.

You will not have another connection on the car, a pair of wires ending in half of a black rectangular plug terminal. That's for the embedded O2 sensor heater, but it didn't get added until the 83 MY.
The right oxygen sensor for the car will plug directly into the connector you show. Go to your shop manuals, which you have for the car, to wiring diagrams, section 97 page 97-123, unfold it, and you will see only the green wire connection for the O2 sensor. Go to page 97-159 to see the set-up for 83 models. Two extra wires for a heater to make the oxygen sensor more viable earlier in the warmup cycle for the car.

You may be able also to buy a universal sensor. Check with Roger Tyson, that is where you will probably get the best price, original at least.

I don't bash previous owners much. You in particular should celebrate the fact that the vehicle was preserved, not adulterated by them or any yahoo mechanic. Bigtime.

Thanks for highly detailed direction. Do you have you head in pubs all day, or do you have a photographic memory?
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I washed and waxed her today. I also had a tint shop put a sheet on the hatch glass to keep the greenhouse effect down. 3M near-limo dark. Looks great. Next week I'm going to have the rest of the windows tinted. I can already feel a drop in temp in the cabin with that hatch glass tinted.



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One more pic.

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Dayyyuuuuummmm.
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Go post some intro pictures, before and after, on the other forum. Cool.

I'm finishing the simultaneous resurrection of 4 928's and so its all fresh in my head.
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Go post some intro pictures, before and after, on the other forum. Cool.

I'm finishing the simultaneous resurrection of 4 928's and so its all fresh in my head.

OK.

Are you a Porsche tech, or just doing it all yourself?
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DIY. Engineer. A little extra spare time in between jobs right now.

Not many people get into this little hobby and end up actually driving around a week after buying one with the investment you made. Nice work.
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Not many people get into this little hobby and end up actually driving around a week after buying one with the investment you made. Nice work.
100% agree on this statement. I wasn't driving mine till over a year after I bought mine. The fun part is learning the ins and outs out the car. Heck, we all own a "Porsche!"
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DIY. Engineer. A little extra spare time in between jobs right now.

Not many people get into this little hobby and end up actually driving around a week after buying one with the investment you made. Nice work.

Sheesh! I'm sorry I *****ed about the little stuff!












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