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Maleficio 05-09-2011 05:10 PM

Hey, you replaced your coil already? Was it a new coil? It may be bad. Can you return it? Did you wire it up correctly?

nuts4porsche 05-09-2011 05:35 PM

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i know i have no spark because when i turn the key it does nothing,but turn on all acc. if i jump the coils pos. from the battery it turns over and wants to start but doesnt,if i poor gas in the intake it fires right up,one turn of key and will run till all of gas i poored in the intake runs out,it does piss ya off!cause its running! but not just get in and turn key........almost making me want to sell her! im tryn to slow down but its getting rough to keep doing the same things over and over!

nuts4porsche 05-09-2011 05:36 PM

yes new coil in

Maleficio 05-09-2011 05:50 PM

You've described EXACTLY the symptoms I had. I could get the car running with starting fluid, even rev it a little. Touched the smog pump valve and wham, found my problem. I relocated that ground to a place that's visible and easily accessed, plus added extra grounds. I would go straight to that ground right now and have a good look at it.

The fact that the car will run proves that your ignition is working fine, it's your injectors that are not pulsing. Or you have no fuel pressure. I had pressure, because my engine would light off from the cold start valve opening, it's battery powered. Verify fuel pressure.

Maleficio 05-09-2011 05:52 PM

You can go to the fuel pump relay and jump 30 to 87 to make your pump run. You'll be able to hear it. Now just because the pump runs doesn't mean that pressure is getting to the injectors. Fuel filter good?

Maleficio 05-09-2011 05:54 PM

Actually, I need you to itemize your symptoms in an easy to understand list.

You turn the key to crank position, nothing happens? Accessories work, but no crank? So you fond some other way to crank the engine, and it will run with gas poured into the intake? If this sounds like your symptoms, you may have a problem with your ignition switch.

neil30076 05-09-2011 06:05 PM

+1 on what Maleficio said.
If it does NOT crank you have a different problem,
BUT
If it tries to start with gas or starter fluid the green wire is good, and so are most of the rest of the ignition circuits. You also have spark, because the starter fluid or gas won't light off otherwise.
Go back to the CE panel, pull and reset all the relays and fuses you previously pulled out - one of them ( the fuel pump, LH or another) are not seated correctly.
Let us know what you find....

Maleficio 05-09-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neil30076 (Post 6012547)
+1 on what Maleficio said.
If it does crank you have a different problem,
BUT
If it tries to start with gas or starter fluid the green wire is good, and so are most of the rest of the ignition circuits. You also have spark, because the starter fluid or gas won't light off otherwise.
Go back to the CE panel, pull and reset all the relays and fuses you previously pulled out - one of them ( the fuel pump, LH or another) are not seated correctly.
Let us know what you find....


Is it possible to install a relay incorrectly? I thought the sockets were laid out for only one way to install? But it's definitely possible to put a relay into the wrong spot.

neil30076 05-09-2011 06:14 PM

Good point!
You cannot put a relay in incorrectly, unless you bend the pins on it. However, you may be able to put the wrong relay into the wrong socket - a five pin relay in a 4 pin socket - maybe.

nuts4porsche - do you have a wiring diagram, relay and fuse layout for your car?
If not, PM me and i'll send you them.

nuts4porsche 05-09-2011 07:11 PM

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when i turn the key i hear a loud eeeert sound from the ass end,assuming thats the fuel pump? cant tell cause im in the car...

nuts4porsche 05-09-2011 07:13 PM

what would be wrong with the ignition switch?

nuts4porsche 05-09-2011 07:16 PM

and havnt checked the fuel filter yet,im running down list,over and over again and still getting same results! no spark,and no pedal

nuts4porsche 05-09-2011 07:18 PM

i have all man. and flow charts for the car, nothing is "helping" in the end....same results

Maleficio 05-09-2011 07:30 PM

If your filter was clogged, you would've seen hard starting for a little while before no start. Probably not a clogged filter.

"Eeert" sounds like a running pump.

Again, can you actually crank over the engine with the key, or do you have to do something else to get it to crank? When I say "crank", I mean the engine turning over (but not lighting off).

It sounded like you said you were using a workaround to actually crank the engine with the key in run position. Without clarity on this point, it'll be hard to help you go farther.

Because if you cannot crank over the engine with the key in "crank" position, it would be a defective ignition switch.

If you can crank over the engine with the actual key, and it won't light off and run, but will light off and idle with gas poured into the intake, then you have a fuel injector problem, which is controlled by the L-Jet computer mounted to the right of your CE panel in the passenger footwell.

My engine would do the exact same thing with the computer connected or not, so that really brought it down to the computer or it's wiring, and wiring it was: a loose ground.

Is your computer connector fully connected and tight?

Maleficio 05-09-2011 08:52 PM

Dude, is your alarm activated?

nuts4porsche 05-10-2011 11:50 AM

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man,i have no clue about the alarm being activated? so is it the computer or ignition switch? ill just check all the above lists u guys came up with,will have to see tomorrow! if it doesnt rain again! thanks guys!

Maleficio 05-10-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuts4porsche (Post 6013940)
man,i have no clue about the alarm being activated? so is it the computer or ignition switch? ill just check all the above lists u guys came up with,will have to see tomorrow! if it doesnt rain again! thanks guys!


You need to make an accurate and detailed list of all your symptoms in the order they occur before we can really help you.

nuts4porsche 05-10-2011 12:07 PM

it starts right up with the key if i have someone help me,hook a pos. to the battery to jump the pos. on the coil and put gas into the intake,as i start her,turns right over and purrs like a kitten. if i just sit in the car and turn the key to start her up,nothing happens except all electrical objects inside come on,there is a loud buzz sound that comes from the rear and a red button with a "!" lights up on my console and constantly buzzes on the inside. but the car wont start up.

MPDano 05-10-2011 12:41 PM

sounds like an ignition switch to me.

nuts4porsche 05-10-2011 03:37 PM

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so i should buy one and see? ill have to order that,cause i dont think i can get one from any place around here!


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