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what fluids do you use in your 951?
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Oil: 1 quart Amsoil racing 20/50 (with Zinc Phosphorus added) + Mobil 1 15/50 for the rest. Tranny: MTL + 75/90 mix + LSD additive Brake: ATE Super Blue Power Steering: have not changed this yet: suggestions? I have LOTS of leaks & what looks like normal fluid. Coolant: Orange + distilled water + 1 bottle WaterWetter Mark
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Oil: Valvoline synpower 5w40 + ZDDP Plus
Tranny - Redline Brakes - ATE Super Blue PS - None...manual rack Coolant - Porsche Blue + Distilled Water or VW/Audi Blue + Distilled Water |
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Why would you use DexCool?
I've not owned my 951 long, but according to the service records it has had Mobil 1 synthetic for almost 10 years. The fist time i changed the oil I used conventional Caster 20W-50 with ZDDP. After a few hundred miles one time I started it up and it knocked. The car had been sitting for quite some time so I guess the oil had drained out of the rod bearings. Perhaps my rod bearings are shot (I'm changing them right now). For coolant, I used the premix Prestone green stuff. In the US we don't really have to worry about the super special coolant. The problem is when people mix good coolant with water from their garden hose instead of distilled water. Personally, I'm too lazy to buy/mix distilled water so I just use the pre mix stuff. The water jackets in my engine look great. I haven't done brakes on my car yet, but I plan on using the Super Blue. When I did my transmission I was at a friend's shop. They put it on the lift so I could check some things, and while it was up I had them put in Amsoil synthetic. Last edited by TexasBlake; 01-16-2009 at 07:54 PM.. |
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swepco is the best tranny fluid for the 951;
Transmission Oil recommendation
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DexCool actually isnt bad stuff, it gets a bad rep though from people claiming it never needs to be changed. The other problem is when its mixed with regular green stuff (sludge).
As for the stuff i use.. Oil - Redline Synthetic 10w40 or 15w50 (depends what season we are in). I was previously a Mobil 1 user but the ZDDP content sucks. The Redline still has a very high amount, and the film strength is far superior. I used to come off into the pits after a DE run with 1.5-2bar oil pressure with 15w50 Mobil 1 , basically same conditions with Redline 10w40 i have yet to see lower than 3-bar! Brakes - ATE SuperBlue Coolant - Regular Prestone and .. i know phosphate free is recommend but this is only an issue if you live in a place with alot of minerals in the water, IE almost all of Europe. Power Steering - Castrol ATF is what i put in last Transaxle - Redline 75w90NS Washer Fluid - the cheap crap... .
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Oil - Mobil1 Synthetic 15W-50. Always had great oil pressure at the track, and the car doesn't use much oil at all. I plan to try Amsoil at some point, but Mobil1 is so easy to buy and the Amsoil is not.
Trans - Swepco 201 Coolant - Zerex G-05 phosphate-free coolant Hydraulic - ATE Super Blue Wheel Bearing Grease - Mobil1 Synthetic (Red) PS - Porsche
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Oil - Mobil 1 Synthetic 15/50. I tried using conventional Q-State oil, but after a couple auto-X runs I would get lots of valvetrain noise, which has never occurred with the Mobil 1. No noise is a good enough idicator for me! I've always been above 2 bar oil pressure, even coming off track at a DE.
Brakes/clutch - ATE Super Blue Coolant - Prestone. Steering - Pentosin from the Porsche dealer. Tranny - Royal Purple synthetic is what I used last time and seems OK. |
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20W-50 Redline (I don't drive it in freezing weather).
Pentosin antifreeze with Redline Water Wetter. ATE Super Blue or Gold, alternated. Redline MT90 in the tranny. Valvoline ATF in the power steering.
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Castrol 20w/50 or 25w/60 for track. My mechanic would actually shoot me if I used Mobil 1
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Redline 10W40 or 15W50 oil
ATE Superblue for brakes Redline for transaxle Evans NPG+ Waterless Coolant
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I have a 951 with a LSD. I bought some swepco 201. Do I need a fricition modifier to add to the swepco?
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Mobil 1 15/50 engine oil.
NAPA LSD gear oil Prestone Dot 4 brake fluid DexCool coolant Dexron Mercron III fluid in PS Generic wheel bearing grease Vehicle has over 100 DE's over a period of 14 years on its clock. No problems other than oil leaks and normal wear and tear.
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i use mobile1 20w50 but i get my lifters tapping when on boost
![]() i will be changing my oil in the next 2-3 days so what do you guys actually recommend its becoming winter down here but it dosnt get cold enough to snow, mobil1 - xxWxx penrite - xxWxx Redline - xxWxx castrol - xxWxx valvoline - xxWxx Cheers
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I just put penrite - 15W60 and it still makes that tapping noise on the lifters not as bad but its still there,
good oil pressure though 5+ while driving and between 4-5 when idle on warm/hot
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I've read through the FAQ and this thread for sage advice on what to use in my newly bought 951. I found Royal Purple, Valvoline Racing synthetic, and Lucas synthetic in 5W30 at a local Auto Zone. I decided to go with the Lucas this time since it's little "cheaper" and will probably switch over to RP on the next one (not sure if it's ever had synthetic in it). I'm using a K&N oil filter. PS: Topped off with universal ATF. Tranny service is next on the list.
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Tip for changing your brake fluid:
I use ATE Super Blue, then when it comes time to change the fluid again(every 2 years), I change to the ATE typ 200 Gold, and alternate blue then gold and so on. The ATE typ 200 Gold is the same (same wet and dry boiling points, same viscosity, exactly the same EXCEPT for the color) as Super Blue, and you can actually see when the new fluid arrives at the brake/clutch cylinder.
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if your not racing, just use kendall gt1 20w50 or 15w40 or swepco, For trans, swepco is very good . if your racing , use redline synthetic , no other synthetic . joe gibbs and brad penn for non synthetic, Think about it , if your racing, your going to change your oil after each race, redline is not worth it because your wasting the longevity factor, both brad penn joe gibbs oils have the absolute highest ppm zddp in their oils because they are race proven companies. Swepco all day for street cars, and so on, for p/s fluid, redline also makes a very nice fluid , otherwise any atf dextrol III or higher. Ams oil is ok , but not comparable to gibbs or penn
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i use the super blue for brakes and water + water wetter ,
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