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Rebel911 11-04-2009 11:29 AM

the start of my LS1 conversion:
 
about 1/2 way done with the body work.
I just received the RH basic kit, tonight I am going to go pick up my engine and drop it off at the engine builders.
Since it is getting a little cold to do body work I am going to shift gears and start putting in the radiator.
below are pics of where I am today. the car is down to ~1840 without the engine.
there is a lot more to do...

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010391.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010392.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010395.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010396.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010397.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010399.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010400.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010390.jpg

Facey 11-04-2009 11:38 AM

crazy top chop !!! will be interesting to see what it looks all painted up !

mbaran 11-04-2009 01:19 PM

Where do you get a windshield now?

imaircooled 11-04-2009 01:26 PM

Very interesting! Will those rear quarter windows be some kind of cooling ducts?

joeybscarface 11-04-2009 01:49 PM

CRAZY CHOP!!! I LOVE IT.:eek:

Are you going to use the turbo wing? I think a carrera wing would fit the sleek style more than the turbo. Just my two cent.

GREAT JOB

1990C4S 11-04-2009 01:57 PM

This should be interesting....getting popcorn, sitting back and watching...

Slow911 11-04-2009 02:22 PM

Interesting start...can't wait to see where this goes.

sc_rufctr 11-04-2009 02:25 PM

I can't take my eyes of the photos.... !!!

bpp944 11-04-2009 02:44 PM

Subscribed and looking forward to following your progress!

don gilbert 11-04-2009 02:48 PM

I like the customs. This could be special if all done correctly.

DW SD 11-04-2009 04:31 PM

Is the other 1/2 of the body work to put a new proper canopy on it?

Looks like the poor thing has been scalped.

I hope I'm not offending you. It is not my taste, but certainly seems like you know what you want. I commend your efforts in making it yours.

Doug

shanghai_todd 11-04-2009 05:20 PM

subscibed and want to see that LS1 in action, at the pace my build is going you will probably be up and running before me :)

18" wheels with that chop top would look evil..

78-911SC 11-04-2009 05:25 PM

Subscribed, is going to be a unusual project. Want to see the outcome.

Rebel911 11-05-2009 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbaran (Post 4991826)
Where do you get a windshield now?

I am cutting my own. I have a friend who has the right equipment to cut down the stock one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by imaircooled (Post 4991837)
Very interesting! Will those rear quarter windows be some kind of cooling ducts?

one side is for the intake the other will be oil and tranny cooler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeybscarface (Post 4991877)
CRAZY CHOP!!! I LOVE IT.:eek:


Are you going to use the turbo wing? I think a carrera wing would fit the sleek style more than the turbo. Just my two cent.

GREAT JOB

I'll have to check that out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by don gilbert (Post 4992007)
I like the customs. This could be special if all done correctly.

thanks, I hope I do it right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DW SD (Post 4992235)
Is the other 1/2 of the body work to put a new proper canopy on it?

Looks like the poor thing has been scalped.

I hope I'm not offending you. It is not my taste, but certainly seems like you know what you want. I commend your efforts in making it yours.

Doug

thanks, no one offends me, my motto if you don't like it, don't look, not my problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanghai_todd (Post 4992349)
subscibed and want to see that LS1 in action, at the pace my build is going you will probably be up and running before me :)

18" wheels with that chop top would look evil..

I hope to be running and ready for paint by late winter.
i will check out the wheel sizing.

KillerDynoSoar 11-05-2009 03:40 AM

Wow.. did you consider a 935 body? Would have really looked like a Le Mans refuge... awesome.

Still good luck with going your own way. :)

Shaun @ Tru6 11-05-2009 03:55 AM

you've been busy James, nice progress! I can see why you haven't been able to ship the seats.

I wouldn't go with the side scoops, but I like it, looks mean. Hope you are going with black or a black purple.

smokintr6 11-05-2009 06:10 AM

Slightly different take on a famous custom Porsche? was the Mulholland RSR your inspiration for the porject or a coincidence? Could be a cool outcome. I'll keep my eyes open for your progress.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257433846.jpg

Rebel911 11-05-2009 08:15 AM

Just a coincidence. never saw that car before.
the top of the windshield looks off on that chop.
however it my personal opinion that the lowered roof line and racked windshield looks better.

Rebel911 11-06-2009 11:30 AM

OK, so the P-car just lost a little more weight.
140# from the 2000# makes that a 7% drop to 1860#

before

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PA310324.jpg

after

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010388.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010389.jpg

and some updated pics:

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010390.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010391.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010392.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010395.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010396.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010397.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB010399.jpg

Jgordon 11-06-2009 11:45 AM

When someone says V8 around here, people typically react a little more harshly than if you'd peed on their shoes and slapped their wives.

Looks like a cool project.

With your skill at bodywork, I hope you didn't start with a pristine turbo.

Rebel911 11-06-2009 11:59 AM

It was in ~ok~ shape when I purchased it.
I have a lot more plans for the body before it goes to paint.

thanks for the positive post.

I just started talking to the guy that is going to be putting in the chassis bracing and cage.
as soon as we have a plan/design that will e the next step.

dad911 11-06-2009 12:28 PM

Not my cup of tea.... but I think the lines would flow better now with slantnose or strosek fenders.

http://993c4s.com/wp-content/uploads...sche-front.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ose_1982_1.jpg

Rebel911 11-07-2009 02:32 PM

Good idea, I just purchased strosek fenders. Hope to have them by Friday. This will cut a lot of weight also.

updated pictures:

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...3665/photo.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...665/photo2.jpg

Dueller 11-07-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebel911 (Post 4993383)
Just a coincidence. never saw that car before.
the top of the windshield looks off on that chop.
however it my personal opinion that the lowered roof line and racked windshield looks better.

The silver Mulholland car uses a stock windshield...A-pillar windshield laid back. Was done by George Barris in so cal in the 70's IIRC. Yeah...THAT Barris:eek:

Looking forward to your project.

M.Harrigan 11-08-2009 06:52 AM

Nice Project!! Do you have any pics of the chop as it was in progress?

wowzer911 11-08-2009 07:07 AM

Hmmm.... a hard top speedster. Maybe it'll grow on me.
I think a different tail and the Strosek fenders will make that happen.

Jim2 11-08-2009 07:48 AM

Reminds me, what ever happened to this guy?

"doozer" hypertec

Rebel911 11-08-2009 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Harrigan (Post 4998772)
Nice Project!! Do you have any pics of the chop as it was in progress?

I do have pics of the chop in progress. I will post them up tonight.

67targa 11-08-2009 09:34 AM

Very creative! I think your roof line is cleaner than the Mulholland RSR version. I have seen it and the line of that car was awkward. There was a 356 on one of these threads that used 550 style cooling ductwork and an enclosed rear window intake. I will post the photo, you might find that it is more fluid that using the quarter windows. As an industrial designer I am impressed when someone applies their creativity: even to something as iconic as the 911 design study. I will look foreword to watching your vision come to fruition!!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257705188.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257705203.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257705221.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257705237.jpg

Rebel911 11-08-2009 12:39 PM

end of the weekend.
I need to get water pump gaskets.
a MAP sensor
test the alternator
clean and test the injectors
drop off the throttle body to be ported
look for headers
work on some custom plumbing.

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB080441.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB080442.jpg

Rebel911 11-08-2009 02:10 PM

To answer how I chopped the top.

I cut a 3" section out of the "A" pillar removed the "B" pillar and pie cut the "C" pillar. Then stretched the top and bottom "A's" to meet. I run 3/8 steel down the middle then started to weld back each layer.
The B & C pillar's were much easier to rebuild

one thing you have to remember is that the pillars are structural and you have to peal them like an onion then brace each layer as you put them back.


it's not as easy as just cutting and pasting:


http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB080448.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/x1.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/P9180007.jpg

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http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/P9190028.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/P9190030.jpg

continued below.

Rebel911 11-08-2009 02:10 PM

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/P9190028.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/P9190027.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/P9190045.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/x2.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB080445.jpg

mkingham 11-09-2009 07:45 AM

LS Exhaust option
 
Hi, I love the CHOP! Can't wait to see more.

I found a good set of headers that will clear the RH brackets, they are made by JBA Model 1850S-3 They were made for a LQ motor in a Suburban, but they fit great.

See Pics below! Good luck.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257785030.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257785091.jpg

Rebel911 11-09-2009 04:46 PM

11/9 - either the alt pulley or crank pulley is wrong.
everyday it is something... but the TB is at New Era.

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/8.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/7.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/6.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/5.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/2-1.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/3-1.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/1-1.jpg

mkingham 11-10-2009 04:43 AM

Alternator alignment issue
 
Hi, I had trouble with my crank pulley / alternator alignment as well. My engine came from a corvette (LS6) and the crank pulley sites closer to the block than it would on a F Body camero/firebird LS motor. I think there are 3 different offsets for the LS crank pulley. Is it possible your motor came from a truck?

Rot 911 11-10-2009 04:55 AM

You have impressed the hell out of me! Nice work.

Rebel911 11-10-2009 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkingham (Post 5002311)
Hi, I had trouble with my crank pulley / alternator alignment as well. My engine came from a corvette (LS6) and the crank pulley sites closer to the block than it would on a F Body camero/firebird LS motor. I think there are 3 different offsets for the LS crank pulley. Is it possible your motor came from a truck?

The engine came from a camaro. The trucks are iron this is aluminum. However the guy I purchased it from did put truck coil packs on it and sold me the truck computer.
he probability put the pulley on as well.
You have a good source for pulleys?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt V (Post 5002324)
You have impressed the hell out of me! Nice work.

thanks! I can't wait for the new fenders to show up today... or tomorrow. I UPS next day aired them and this is what I get for updated tracking info:
THE PACKAGE WAS LEFT IN A UPS FACILITY

Rebel911 11-10-2009 05:50 PM

So close. Wiring this weekend then put the engine in.
Dan, from Reactive Chassis, came over tonight to measure out and talk ideas for the chassis stiffing and cage.

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB100459.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB100458.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...5/PB100460.jpg

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mkingham 11-11-2009 04:44 AM

good source for pulleys
 
I have always liked ATI's Harmonic Balancers / Pulleys. Don't forget to buy a new bolt if you make the swap, the crank bolt is not re-useable on LS motors.

Keep the pictures coming. I am working on my fuel tank mount and radiator setup. I'll be curious to see how you route the cooling lines. I ended up running mine through the frame heating vents.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257946937.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257946964.jpg

MJHanna 11-11-2009 04:53 AM

Looks like a fun build. I keep thinking you are putting the radiators in the back thus the side scoops.


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