Anyone else have a car get rejected on BAT? I did.

[1979-930]

First off I apologize this isn't a Porsche. But we talk about BAT a lot here and I submitted a car that got rejected. I'm a little stumped on why.

Does anyone know if it's just the roll of the dice with who reviews the cars and makes the decision? My car is twice the car compared to others on their site right now.

So here is the CL link to my old Saleen I built. It was my son's first car until he cooked the engine. And this isn't the best car to send him to College in anyway.
I actually made a deal last night for $20k plus $400 delivery. So not getting accepted isn't a big deal. It just seems weird for this car to get rejected. Too many mods? Chassis miles? Just bad luck on who reviewed the car?
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/d/rocklin-saleen-speedster-mustang/7682992440.html

Here is a similar car on BAT right now.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-ford-mustang-steeda-convertible-95-q-02/

[Macroni]

I would guess 181000 miles.

[MrBonus]

They reject a ton of cars. They rejected my rust free restored ‘71 Ghia and never gave me a reason why other than they weren’t running any of those at the moment, only to let some rust bucket one run the following day with a reserve. They’re very fickle.

[GG Allin]

Mine was only rejected by the bidders, only to then be adored by the bidders when the ****er flipped it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-mercedes-benz-sl500-148/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-mercedes-benz-sl500-182/

[1979-930]

Originally Posted by Macroni

I would guess 181000 miles.

That’s my guess. But that’s only on the body.
Everything has been rebuilt or replaced. With the chassis supports and Griggs suspension the car is very solid.


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[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by GG Allin

Mine was only rejected by the bidders, only to then be adored by the bidders when the ****er flipped it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-mercedes-benz-sl500-148/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-mercedes-benz-sl500-182/

Is there a good time of year to sell?

[MrBonus]

It really is wild how seasonal classic car sales is. I'm going to be selling my F250 but not until April.

[RarlyL8]

They're not fickle they're biased towards dealers/flippers.
I submitted an extremely nice one owner early 911 (for a customer) and BaT insisted on setting an absurdly low reserve. I declined then ran an experiment. Contacted a flipper and had them submit the car. They got a realistic reserve and the car immediately accepted. I pulled it and it sold the next day for more than asking price.
I've also caught a vendor selling stolen items and called them out on it. BaT removed the post as "non constructive" while allowing some egotist in the peanut gallery to say "nothing to see here, bid with confidence".
These are the type of people you're dealing with.

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by RarlyL8

They're not fickle they're biased towards dealers/flippers.
I submitted an extremely nice one owner early 911 (for a customer) and BaT insisted on setting an absurdly low reserve. I declined then ran an experiment. Contacted a flipper and had them submit the car. They got a realistic reserve and the car immediately accepted. I pulled it and it sold the next day for more than asking price.
I've also caught a vendor selling stolen items and called them out on it. BaT removed the post as "non constructive" while allowing some egotist in the peanut gallery to say "nothing to see here, bid with confidence".
These are the type of people you're dealing with.

They definitely defer to their frequent power sellers. They beat me up and hard-lined me on my S2000 reserve then let another one run a week later from a dealer, same year, same mileage, same condition and it didn't meet reserve at $500 over my selling bid.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by MrBonus

It really is wild how seasonal classic car sales is. I'm going to be selling my F250 but not until April.

We don't sell cars between November-March. People tend to focus on other things we found when we sold cars in this period it was usually to another dealer, who would sell again in the Spring.

---Adam

[1979-930]

Originally Posted by GG Allin

Mine was only rejected by the bidders, only to then be adored by the bidders when the ****er flipped it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-mercedes-benz-sl500-148/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-mercedes-benz-sl500-182/

Did you look through to see if the people making negative comments were the same making positive comments on the flip?


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[Mike80911]

Originally Posted by RarlyL8

They're not fickle they're biased towards dealers/flippers.
I submitted an extremely nice one owner early 911 (for a customer) and BaT insisted on setting an absurdly low reserve. I declined then ran an experiment. Contacted a flipper and had them submit the car. They got a realistic reserve and the car immediately accepted. I pulled it and it sold the next day for more than asking price.
I've also caught a vendor selling stolen items and called them out on it. BaT removed the post as "non constructive" while allowing some egotist in the peanut gallery to say "nothing to see here, bid with confidence".
These are the type of people you're dealing with.

Spot on. You see the same dealers selling cars for ridiculous prices and all of their groupies singing their praises. There is also something funny going on with the same car being sold over and over again by different dealers.

[Thinkfast]

BAT has gotten too big for their britches. I sold two cars through them. On my third car we were apart by $20k on reserve. I said I would go down by $15k, they would NOT budge. I took the car to PCAR market, and got my price. BAT missed out on $5k max commission. Dumb move on their part.

[speednme1]

I’ve sold a few cars through BAT. Not just my cars but friends cars as well. I find that doing your own value research before requesting a reserve is a plus. I’ve had to go back and fourth with them. Having comparables on hand helps. Be prepared to meet somewhere (reserve wise) that is fair. Keep in mind that what is valuable to us (as owners) may be not so valuable to a potential buyer. BAT is not the only online auction house just the most popular.

[Initium]

BAT doesn’t run on logic. You’ll see very nice stuff sell way under market value, then hot steaming garbage sell for crazy money. Seems to be a roll of the dice.

[speednme1]

Originally Posted by Initium

BAT doesn’t run on logic. You’ll see very nice stuff sell way under market value, then hot steaming garbage sell for crazy money. Seems to be a roll of the dice.

That is very true but sometimes I see sellers not going an extra inch on their listings. Lack of detailed photos is an example. No underside photos or very minimal underside photos. Then you have sellers who won't replace minor damaged or missing parts. A little bit of legwork goes a long way. Some of the garbage stuff has very good presentation. Some of the very nice stuff has a lazy presentation. It really is a hit or miss but then again, the same can be said for a place like RM Sotheby's. They just sold a modified Mercedes EVO2 with TMU (as the original cluster was not available) yet they claimed it was original miles plus their online photos were from 2016....sold bid was $544k...now that's nuts..lol

[Jeff Alton]

Totally populated by "dealers" and wanna be dealers.....

Sad....

Cheers

[onboost]

A lot of it is "the roll of the dice with who reviews the cars and makes the decision?" I submitted a 74 Lotus Europa TC w/5spd. Well-worn car in need of restoration but very complete... the write-up was straight forward and descriptive for that type of car, and the pics showed everything described. It was rejected, while within the next week there were a couple of cars listed that looked as though they had been pulled from a lake after 50 yrs!! Clearly being purchased for nothing more than their Vin #s in opinion.

However, on the flip side others have been successful at having multiple cars accepted and sold on BaT. And yes, there is also a lot of trading between dealers that have some behind the scenes dealings goning on too.

[FunWithPaul]

My sister's 1975 911S just sold for asking price($20k)

BAT would not let her set a reserve price.

I listed it on the PCA Mart, and the buyer contacted me the first day.

I hear the flatbed came to pick it up today (it is in Calif, I am in Hawaii)

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by FunWithPaul

My sister's 1975 911S just sold for asking price($20k)

BAT would not let her set a reserve price.

I listed it on the PCA Mart, and the buyer contacted me the first day.

I hear the flatbed came to pick it up today (it is in Calif, I am in Hawaii)

I think your sister did well!