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eBay is comical

Here is a 1980 SC Targa with 60k on it bid to almost 28k

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Here is a 1983 SC Coupe with 31k miles and the best bid is $23,6

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I am not saying the bid wont go higher on the coupe and if the car is what it says it is the price should probably be higher. Looking at the two the Silver Targa looks to have some shill bidding going on.

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Old 10-10-2013, 07:22 AM
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Wow. Take a look at the underside of the engine on the bordeaux coupe. Very clean......But dont touch. The paint is not dry yet.

Scum seller - hope that some ignoramus doesnt take the bait.
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Wow. Take a look at the underside of the engine on the bordeaux coupe. Very clean......But dont touch. The paint is not dry yet.

Scum seller - hope that some ignoramus doesnt take the bait.
The top of the engine on the coupe looks poor compared to the underside. Might be a great car, but that detail alone should make payment contingent on a thorough PPI.

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The Targa is back down to 17k. Maybe the bidder was just testing for what the high bid was... people have done this on my auctions (non-auto). They throw in a ridiculous high bid to see the current high bid or reserve price and then retract their bid.

I can't put my finger on it, but the coupe looks shady. Probably the color enhancement of the photos and the contrast between the top and bottom of the engine.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:58 AM
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The Targa is back down to 17k. Maybe the bidder was just testing for what the high bid was... people have done this on my auctions (non-auto). They throw in a ridiculous high bid to see the current high bid or reserve price and then retract their bid.

I can't put my finger on it, but the coupe looks shady. Probably the color enhancement of the photos and the contrast between the top and bottom of the engine.
I had some bad fumes from engine cleaner and wd40 when I put my engine back in the SC.

Wonder how that coupe will smell and smoke when the happy new owner gets it nice and warm....yiekes!

They masked the sump plate but the cylinder fins got the spray........

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If I had to guess on how many "winning bidders" don't follow through, I'd say 20-25%.

This is a combination of over-excited shilling, 'wife says no' guys and 'my kid clicked the button' guys. Not to mention, bids on cars are not binding. An inspection can allow a 'winning bidder' out of a deal.
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Ha! I didn't understand what you guys might mean.

But they really did hose down the underside with silver paint. A couple light passes of... zinc paint? Classy how its crusted on the nuts.

Have folks seen this before? Is this the dawn of a new sales technique?

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Ha! I didn't understand what you guys might mean.

But they really did hose down the underside with silver paint. A couple light passes of... zinc paint? Classy how its crusted on the nuts.

Have folks seen this before? Is this the dawn of a new sales technique?

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Not new at all. Probably been around for decades
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I don't trust mileage on any SC these days without a solid paper trail. The cars are at least 30 years old and the odometers tend to break. While I don't really want one of them showing 200k+ miles, 30-60k isn't exciting me either. Wouldn't touch that red car due to the spray paint job.

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I don't trust any ebay car period. I mean why would someone sell a good car on ebay? Much easier to get rid of a genuine 911 locally, via PCA, friends or on one of the specialist boards. Ebay is a good way to get rid of a problem car to a buyer who is out of town.

Never ever buy a 911 on ebay without a PPI and also pay yourself and physically look at it and the seller.
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Answer from the seller of the coupe - not that it is any of my business, I just hate that someone is getting the shaft by a scoundrel.

Read from bottom.

Dear 1993usmid-amchamp,

I was not trying to be rude - just honest. The car is misrepresented and has not been a 31k miles car for many years.

Have a nice weekend.

Christian

- 123egeskov


From: 1993usmid-amchamp
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Subject: Re: Vehicle condition: 123egeskov sent a message about Porsche : 911 SC COUPE #151139774486
Sent Date: Oct-10-13 11:10:04 PDT

Dear 123egeskov,

yes it is indeed. I showed the pix just to give a clear honest pix of what was done prior to my ownership. no need to be rude have a good day sir.

- 1993usmid-amchamp


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Subject: Vehicle condition: 123egeskov sent a message about Porsche : 911 SC COUPE #151139774486
Sent Date: Oct-10-13 10:28:54 PDT

Dear 1993usmid-amchamp,

Hi,

Nice looking Sc.

How many spray cans did you use on the underside of the engine?

Christian

- 123egeskov
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I don't trust any ebay car period. I mean why would someone sell a good car on ebay? Much easier to get rid of a genuine 911 locally, via PCA, friends or on one of the specialist boards. Ebay is a good way to get rid of a problem car to a buyer who is out of town.

Never ever buy a 911 on ebay without a PPI and also pay yourself and physically look at it and the seller.
I sold a very nice 1967 911S on ebay after trying the before mentioned alternative methods first. A dealer brought it and resold the car to someone who could not buy off of E-bay, of course with a handsome profit. Bidding sets the price, made it easer for me than trying to defend a price I set.
The dealer who brought my car offered 10k less before ebay than what he paid on ebay.
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You're the Porsche Police Christian! I love it!
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You're the Porsche Police Christian! I love it!
Well I am home sick from work...so have plenty of time on my hands

Hope the Carrera is treating you well.....

Best from Copenhagen,

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If I had to guess on how many "winning bidders" don't follow through, I'd say 20-25%.

This is a combination of over-excited shilling, 'wife says no' guys and 'my kid clicked the button' guys. Not to mention, bids on cars are not binding. An inspection can allow a 'winning bidder' out of a deal.
Not to mention shill bidding by friends/alternate accounts runs rampant on eBay.
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Here is eBay's policy on eBay Motors listings:


"For motor vehicles and real estate, a bid or offer initiates a non-binding transaction representing a buyer's serious expression of interest in buying the seller's item and does not create a formal contract between the buyer and the seller."

Note the terms:

"non-binding"

"not a formal contract"
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Oh ebay is comical. There is a 1986 porsche gold targa. I emailed the guy. Told me it was original paint and new clutch.. So I go see it. Car is toatalty repainted and when I drive it it grinds every gear. Good luck to the sucker that buys it.buy it is going yo a germsn sucker thanks yo our federal reserve president Benake who hss zeto intetest rate.nks yo benskrvwith zero interest rates. Sucke s. Now 16600.gotta love those herman and neyhetland suckers.

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Nothing wrong with selling a car on eBay, it opens the car up to the national and world market.
Like any advertising venue there are pitfalls. I would always recommend a PPI, without it you may be in for a surprise. I think blanket statements about most things on internet forums are a given as well as the people with an obvious axe to grind....
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