Timeframe....

[Stonestreet]

Go for it because you don't think the gauges are telling the truth? I'd be interested in making sure the temp read true, because if it did and it was touching the third line up, it would be running too hot, no?

Marc

EDIT: I meant to quote Eric in this post.

[SilberUrS6]

I'd want the PPI to discover that, for sure.

But the big issue is the fueling hack. Maybe for the early motors, Webers were the way to go, but I find it hard to believe that Webers on a 3.0 are an upgrade for anything but a very narrow range of use. If the temp issue is a gauge issue and not a temp issue (and I think he was talking about the pressure, not the temperature), then I don't mind too much. A small fixit. But head studs would be a much larger issue. And getting CIS back into the car.

[Bash]

Yes on pressure not temp. The owner was convinced a long time ago to put the webers on.
What are we're looking at for replacing the cis? This the best way to go?

[Stonestreet]

Fair enough, I must have misunderstood post 79.

Aside from that, do the PPI and see what they say.

[War584]

inspect the top closely. Can of worms with seals and roof condition. can add a couple grand to sort between recover and seals.

[Bash]

Top brand new,think its the seal. Also had a rattle in the targa bar over driver left ear. Noticed the front of the top was wavy.

[Matt Monson]

I disagree that the Webers are bad. They are great on a 3.0 motor. Not a "fueling hack". CIS is not better than Webers. CIS is an emissions solution.

A car that has been sitting can't be trusted to run right on cars. I got a several thousand dollar discount on a car because of clogged Webers. Rebuilt them myself, cleaned out the gunk and tuned them. Car ran great.

I can tell that story twice. Once on a 911 and again on my '73 914.

Bouncy gauges can be because the car sits too much and doesn't have consistent voltage from a tired battery. Might also need an alternator and/or voltage regulator. Not an immediate reason to dismiss the car as a dud.

A car only driving 1000 miles a year will need some refurbishment. My '67 is like that. Sat in Sheridan a long time. Engine runs like a top after a carb rebuild and new fuel tank and fuel pump. Still needs suspension bushings and the brakes gone through before I ever flog it. I drive it but would I ever ask the brakes to go from 100 to 30 on track? No way.

What do you want in your car? Shades of gray. You want it to run like a top today and pay more? Or you want some sweat equity, some Saturday mornings in the garage with Saturday afternoon on "test drives" seeing the results of that bloody knuckle you got a few hours prior. It's a question of what do cars mean to you, not just what do you want in a 911.

[Matt Monson]

Ps. Sorry my pm box is full. On my phone now. Can't clear it from the phone for some reason.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I disagree that the Webers are bad.

My experience is decidedly different.

[Matt Monson]

Poorly tuned Webers are a nightmare. I spent weeks getting them sorted on my '68. But when you get them dialed the throttle response is amazing.

And the sound. The only 911 engine that sounds better than one on carbs is one on MFI. CIS runs good enough all the time. But for the 911 experience it leaves a lot to be desired. A 3.2 Carrera with a proper Ecu buries CIS in the dark ages of Pcar tuning.

There's a no mans land of 911s. That's 73.5-83 when the cars ran CIS. Only way I will ever own a car in that window is to rip off the original CIS and either go EFI and modern or backdate with Webers or MFI.

Posted by the guy building a 2.5l engine on Weber 40's with no car to put it in...

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

The only 911 engine that sounds better than one on carbs is one on MFI.

Wrong, bisch (aka: Mr. Fancy Undies) - ever heard a 3.3L Turbo, straight through muffler, non-muffled wastegate pipe, and the airbox replaced with a simple filter on the air metering housing, at full song? Utter bliss, my friend (especially under a highway overpass or in a tunnel)!

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Poorly tuned Webers are a nightmare. I spent weeks getting them sorted on my '68. But when you get them dialed the throttle response is amazing.

I spent months trying. Then I finally admitted defeat and gave it to a professional.

The car came back worse than when I gave it to him.

Then I pulled it all off, disassembled, cleaned, and reassembled, and put it back in, and worked at it for a while. Finally, it got back to the state where I had it before the trip to the professional.

Found through want ads the proper mechanical injection bits, and fiddled with them for a few weeks before finally getting the stuff dialed in. I was so happy.

I almost sold that car because of the trouble I had with those carbs. Never again.

BTW, I now consider myself a SPICA expert.

[Matt Monson]

Wrong, bisch (aka: Mr. Fancy Undies) - ever heard a 3.3L Turbo, straight through muffler, non-muffled wastegate pipe, and the airbox replaced with a simple filter on the air metering housing, at full song? Utter bliss, my friend (especially under a highway overpass or in a tunnel)! <img src="http://forums.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg">

My ONLY problem with you, and I say this seriously, is that you lack the ability to keep things subjective and need to constantly call names and belittle people (even if jokingly) because they don't agree with you.
I don't know how many times I've posted this video:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f62wtlzu728
Or this one:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ba8VjvxC83Q

You call me a bishe but you don't know shyte about me. You are as bad as PML. Guess whose gearbox is in these cars?

Just because I think an air cooled engine on MFI sounds best doesn't mean I have no love or respect for boost. Maybe I like my girls skinny and white. Maybe you like yours brown with a badonkadonk. Doesn't mean I think your girl is ugly.

Only biatch I see here us Ronnie and his overwhelming need to compensate for something with his turbo. A turbo is like a blue pill. Can make even a little prick bigger and harder than it was before.

[Ronnie's.930]

Sorry Matt, I thought you, too, enjoyed the friendly back and forth stick poking that several of the guys I interact regularly with on Pelican do, but have obviously read you wrong. My apologies, and I will not engage you in such fashion moving forward.

BTW, you have thoroughly misinterpreted my trubo-blowhardedness . . . I do not think I am superior for owning a 930 or that all other 911s are wack in comparison (I love the sound of a 911 engine with carbs and MFI) . . . my chest beating - that is called humor. I'm not sure how you could have interpreted that differently . . . and speaking of pills, I'm not sure they make one that helps the "humor deprived", but you might want to look into that.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Sorry Matt, I thought you, too, enjoyed the friendly back and forth stick poking that several of the guys I interact regularly with on Pelican do, but have obviously read you wrong. My apologies, and I will not engage you in such fashion moving forward.

BTW, you have thoroughly misinterpreted my trubo-blowhardedness . . . I do not think I am superior for owning a 930 or that all other 911s are wack in comparison (I love the sound of a 911 engine with carbs and MFI) . . . that is called humor. I'm not sure how you could have interpreted that differently . . . and speaking of pills, I'm not sure they make one that helps the "humor deprived", but you might want to look into that.

S'OK, man, you can keep poking me.

(No homo)

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

S'OK, man, you can keep poking me.

(No homo)

Here you go (no no no homo)!

[Matt Monson]

Ronnie,
There's a time and a place. I've got a sense of humour. But if you read just 1 or 2 more posts in this forum tonight you would see I'm not really in that kind of mood tonight.

No need to put me on your "doesn't like to play" list. Just be aware if you don't judge my mood right and call me a biatch on the wrong night my reaction might be to bend you over the table and make you mine.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Just be aware if you don't judge my mood right and call me a biatch on the wrong night my reaction might be to bend you over the table and make you mine.

Would that be with or without "gear oil"?!?!

[Matt Monson]

No lube. Lube is for biatches and trannies. You didn't used to have a dick did you?

[Ronnie's.930]

Ask Eric - he keeps trying to touch me there!