RUF CTR Conversion, Value discussion

[bhmkv]

I love the color!!! Don't know much about the value of this car. Lol cool car!

[ChrisSt]

Amazing car, real history. Though not an original factory built CTR, a conversion is a close second.

The price? Spot on I think. Documented work, all the letters, it's all there.

There are a lot of common misconceptions with the CTR, the biggest being they are all "Yellowbirds." There is only one "Yellowbird," it is the original CTR prototype that was nicknamed the yellowbird by the automotive press when it handed all the biggest names in the business their butts in 1987.

The value on the original yellowbird exceeds 1 million dollars, and if you have ever seen any recent pictures of the instrument cluster that car has well over 700,000 kms on it's speedo.

Axel93, have you been in touch with RUF at all regarding the car being for sale? They may be interested in purchasing the car from you.

The Redbird noted above was recently sent back to Pfaffenhausen for a complete restoration. Another thing not many people know about RUF, they are have an elite level restoration business.

PM me if you need a hand with anything.

[Axel84]

Yes - Ive booked the car into RUF Pfaffenhausen for a complete inspection in 3 weeks time. H.P Lieb will test drive the car as only he does this with the CTRs!

The red car is currently having a color change to black, there is another car in there for restoration as well,as well as a forrest green one!

Im sure RUF will have buyers for it, either with the patina kept "as-is" , or for a fullblown restoration to "new condition" - so Im in no hurry to sell.

Thanks alot for a great reply Will take you up on the offer if I have any more questions!

[SAY - 642]

Wow, this looks amazing in this color. A RUF CTR does not need to be yellow !
This is the real deal !!!! Prices are sky rocketing $600k and up.
The Red CTR #12 that sold a few years back, was Paul's in Canada. I own the original rear bumper from that #12 Car.
He sold it for less than market value back then which was 300K

RUF no longer offers RUF CTR 1 conversions. They are very touchy about parts for the CTR (Yellowbird). I have been sourcing parts for my conversion and its taken a good 5 years. A lot of them NLA and very expensive. Ex. try finding and buying an original RUF intercooler for say a BTR RUF wheels are $$$$. The original rubber lip for the bottom of the front bumper It took me 2 years and an open wallet to find a NOS Original RUF piece from 1987.

This car is tits !!!! Aircooled Supreme Leader

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by SAY - 642

Wow, this looks amazing in this color.

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RUF meets --->

[kevin930t]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

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RUF meets --->

I always liked tonplay with the little one on the far right,chu chu

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[SAY - 642]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR5gieI6czM

[SAY - 642]

BTW: The official CTR colors offered by RUF back in the late 80's

[rs200evo]

Not sure of the exact date, but the red Canadian CTR Ruf vin car, within the last year or so, sold for the mid $400k. I know for a fact, I tried to buy it, but was a week or two late.

[SAY - 642]

Originally Posted by rs200evo

Not sure of the exact date, but the red Canadian CTR Ruf vin car, within the last year or so, sold for the mid $400k. I know for a fact, I tried to buy it, but was a week or two late.

Thank-you for the info. Nice car. Great article 😎
Rare and evil Porsche RUF CTR is ‘completely bonkers’ | Driving

[JacobS911]

Originally Posted by rs200evo

Not sure of the exact date, but the red Canadian CTR Ruf vin car, within the last year or so, sold for the mid $400k. I know for a fact, I tried to buy it, but was a week or two late.

buy this one then! Better color and cheaper

[rs200evo]

Only interested in W09's

[786]

Originally Posted by CountD

Although the car is awesome, it's nowhere worth $300K. It's probably worth $140K.

Originally Posted by -Levi-

Your car is not worth a mid $300k price, if it was someone would have paid that. My guess is $155k-$195k at the high end.

Lol, sold for $390k.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/PA18/Paris/lots/r0004-1988-ruf-ctr-clubsport/564645

[speednme1]

Originally Posted by 786

Lol, sold for $390k.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/PA18/Paris/lots/r0004-1988-ruf-ctr-clubsport/564645

sometimes patience pays off..lol

[911heaven]

Originally Posted by Axel84

There was a Ruf developed six speed gearbox fitted too the CTR ,BTR, BTRIII from 1989. The R50.50

Transmission ratios
1st-3.500
2nd-2.059
3rd-1.409
4th-1.074
5th-0.861
6th-0.718
Reverse-2.857
Drive ratio-3.444

Same shell stripped and built up again, there is 0 difference between factory cars and conversions. RUF CTR is a ground up nut and bolt model.

Because there were about 55 original CTRs built, its history - 29 factory cars and 25 conversions, all using Carrera 3.2s as a base. No technical differences between the 15 cars with a RUF VIN and the 40 cars with a Porsche VIN. Half of the original CTRs had Porsche VINs, they ran out of blank shells!

Though I realize this is an older thread, I love this thread. I have a RUF BTR III that sustained some flood damage exactly 20 years ago. What I learned from this thread is about my R50-50 6 speed ratios. I didn’t know what they were, even though I tried to find out through much research.

My car only had 8000 km on it when it went into the drink. I salvaged the tranny early on within weeks, draining it of all water and gear oil, filled with new gear oil and spun.

Despite any former analysis on the thread, having researched a bit too, I would argue that any car RUF built from the ground up is a real RUF regardless of the vin POR vs WOR. Obviously, the WOR will command a premium, but that doesn’t detract from all their cars being real RUF cars, quite to the contrary. I only mean cars that were built from the ground up in the factory in Germany.

I noticed that the 6 speed on this thread is 0070? Mine is 0081. I would be interested to know if there is still a possibility for my car to be a real RUF again. All that is missing is the motor HA! The rest I was able to strip out and preserve 20 years ago, and it is a Yellowbird color, though cab and 964 Turbo body on an 89 3.2 ROW Carrera base.

bernie

[786]

Originally Posted by Bernard Plett

I would argue that any car RUF built from the ground up is a real RUF regardless of the vin POR vs WOR. Obviously, the WOR will command a premium, but that doesn’t detract from all their cars being real RUF cars, quite to the contrary. I only mean cars that were built from the ground up in the factory in Germany.

I would agree.

That mint green CTR was awesome, sad that some felt the need to bash the car/owner. They probably don't drive anything that could hold a candle to a CTR anyway.

[specialtyoneinc]

Originally Posted by 786

Lol, sold for $390k.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/PA18/Paris/lots/r0004-1988-ruf-ctr-clubsport/564645

The OP got the last laugh. Sweet ride. Worth all the money IMO.

[911heaven]

I ran onto a UK or Euro based RUF forum weeks ago on research on the net. There was a prerequisite for joining i.e. you need have a bonefide RUF, built in the RUF house in Germany. I didn't log it down at the time, but does anyone know of this forum? I would love to know more about this

[JMS935]

Originally Posted by Bernard Plett

I ran onto a UK or Euro based RUF forum weeks ago on research on the net. There was a prerequisite for joining i.e. you need have a bonefide RUF, built in the RUF house in Germany. I didn't log it down at the time, but does anyone know of this forum? I would love to know more about this

That sounds quite pretentious.

[Mocker]

The first rule of Ruf club is...