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flat6pilot 10-30-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10214664)
:eek:

Sounds way kinky, JustTheTIPpy!!!

Only if his ass is hanging out the window.

Going for a ride in Tippy's car:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1540939408.jpg

baloo 10-30-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo (Post 10214656)
You bastards have done a very good job of planting a boost bug in my brain.

Sadly the question becomes do I boost and wide body the SC, or build a fun lil Cobra replica... oddly enough they would cost the same.

Replica projects are fraught with work work work. Unless the body is already finished, the amount of unidentified pitfalls is infinite. Body panel finishing, installing engine/trans, all the electrical hookups, on and on and on. I don't need to list everything -- just know that this is a lifetime project, BUT more likely that it will be another one of those "unfinished projects" up for sale on Craigslist.

If your Porsche is already running, then do that one! Just getting a replica up and running is monumental -- unless you have a crew and do it full time, like on TV, which I doubt.

An alternative is to get someone's "unfinished projects", where 75% of the work has already been done.
BARGAIN HARD! They already know that they will never get even 50% of their investment back.

flightlead404 10-30-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baloo (Post 10233616)
Replica projects are fraught with work work work. Unless the body is already finished, the amount of unidentified pitfalls is infinite. Body panel finishing, installing engine/trans, all the electrical hookups, on and on and on. I don't need to list everything -- just know that this is a lifetime project, BUT more likely that it will be another one of those "unfinished projects" up for sale on Craigslist.

If your Porsche is already running, then do that one! Just getting a replica up and running is monumental -- unless you have a crew and do it full time, like on TV, which I doubt.

An alternative is to get someone's "unfinished projects", where 75% of the work has already been done.
BARGAIN HARD! They already know that they will never get even 50% of their investment back.

Naaaaah......if you can build an airplane you can build a replicar!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif

baloo 10-30-2018 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by flightlead404 (Post 10233625)
Naaaaah......if you can build an airplane you can build a replicar!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif

Who built an airplane?? How many years did it take?
...and is it operational at this moment?

Very familiar with homebuilts. The steps and checks required along the way make them an even greater likelihood that those are projects that dead end before completion, and especially never sell -- left in a barn for the kids/grandkids to try to sell off.

flightlead404 10-30-2018 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baloo (Post 10233659)
Who built an airplane?? How many years did it take?
...and is it operational at this moment?

Very familiar with homebuilts. The steps and checks required along the way make them an even greater likelihood that those are projects that dead end before completion, and especially never sell -- left in a barn for the kids/grandkids to try to sell off.

idk I've owned 3 lol 200mph, fully instrument rated, I've pulled 6+G's and sustained inverted flight in something someone banged together in their garage.

Me? I did it the easy way lol

Actually there are no legal checks required along the way other than a final inspection, although its recommended. My friend built one in 2 years, including building the garage. When I asked him what his skills were prior to building the airplane he said "I changed my own oil once". Total tools owned prior to starting, your typical assortment of pliers and screwdrivers in the kitchen drawer. Learned on youtube, he regularly flies back and forth to Mexico at 200mph with wife and 2 kids in comfort.

Point is, if you put your mind to it and commit to it, anything is doable.

puddy 10-31-2018 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geronimo (Post 10214656)
You bastards have done a very good job of planting a boost bug in my brain.

Sadly the question becomes do I boost and wide body the SC, or build a fun lil Cobra replica... oddly enough they would cost the same.

Cobra replicas are fun! I built one before I knew much about Porsches, sold the cobra to buy my 911. Mine was 2200 lbs, 300 RWHP, not a weapon but definitely fast. You can't sneak around in a Cobra, was almost embarrassing sometimes the reactions from people when they see the car. I was surprised to get similar reactions from my 911 turbo hotrod.

baloo 10-31-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by flightlead404 (Post 10233905)
...Point is, if you put your mind to it and commit to it, anything is doable.

Ha! You put your finger on it: commitment and SUSTAINMENT of that commitment. Very difficult.

I noticed a trend on this and several other forums about projects that start out gung-ho, but which peter out within months (I am no exception!).
So I ran a thread on this forum a few years ago about the innumerable reasons that projects fail, and fail often. Innumerable.
I have gotten the key to completion down to just a few factors -- there are always exceptions, but the trouble is that everyone thinks they are an exception....

Factors for success in completing a project BY ONESELF:
1) FAST COMPLETION: Car must be driveable within maybe 4 months (maybe even less, because most people's focus is probably about 1 month). Any extensions of time due to "because I was there" increase the likelihood of failure. Loss of interest in the project due some new shinier object is really really common.

2) MONEY: Cannot have a project down because you are waiting for more money. The longer you wait, the more likely that there will arise a hotter priority for the money (like kids' clothes, repairs for the Other Car, getting engaged, kid on the way, etc). So limit your project based on a realistic appraisal of your own finances -- and none of that BS that "I'll get a second job" or "my insurance or lawsuit check should be coming in" or "I'll cut back on my cigs or on my eating".

3) CAN DO IT ALL YOURSELF: You have to have the skills (and tools!) or have ready access to the skills/tools (like manuals, or even this forum) in order to carry on the project BY YOURSELF. Depending on a friend or neighbor to constantly come over to assist is a project killer. Everyone has their own stuff to do, and except for one-time friendly assistance, people just are not reliable and won't help for free.

4) GARAGE: You have to have a protected and air conditioned area to do the work. Working outside is a no-go in the long term. Lugging tools in and outside every time, waiting for better weather, etc, adds up quickly as a detractor for going out there to work on the project. (Kind of like having to drive 5 miles to a gym to work out -- a convenience factor that is a common reason gym memberships fail.)

5) TIME: If you have a paying job that requires your time or wears you out, you will lose the gumption and energy to work on the project.

6) SOLE PROJECT (linked with factor #5, TIME)! If you have several other projects going at the same time, bAMM! they all will suffer. Yah, this is my downfall -- I now have 4 great project cars besides all the house projects that keep popping up and demanding priority. I have found that this is a very very common situation for people in my age group (retired): money, garage, skills, and time are not the problem. The problem is diversion from the project at hand due to new priorities -- again all pointing to failure due factor #1, NO FAST COMPLETION.

It's unusual to hear on car forums about project failures -- people don't talk about them; you just hear about the successes.
But these failures is the reason that there are so many Barn Finds lurking around these days.

quattrorunner 10-31-2018 07:40 AM

Baloo that is a very well thought out response and also true. A big project like mine is not done in “a couple months” in fact it’s still ongoing. What helps is that I knew this and still tell people that it’ll never be done even though right now it looks it.
But it is a driving project which makes it doable. It was down for over a year twice! And I hated that but reality and life do get in the way. Also money. Porsche projects are not cheep.
I love my project car and always have new ideas for it since it’s not done. Lol

Tippy 10-31-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 10196124)

So bad@$$ looking!!!!!

Tippy 10-31-2018 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10214664)
:eek:

Sounds way kinky, JustTheTIPpy!!!

I thought about that after I posted.... :D:D:D:D:D:D

Tippy 10-31-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by flat6pilot (Post 10233569)
Only if his ass is hanging out the window.

Going for a ride in Tippy's car:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1540939408.jpg

Naw, that would be GJF's car!!!! That is one car that would probably scare the crap out of you once he got those twins spooling! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

baloo 10-31-2018 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quattrorunner (Post 10234288)
A big project like mine is not done in “a couple months” in fact it’s still ongoing. What helps is that I knew this and still tell people that it’ll never be done even though right now it looks it.
Lol

Realism does help with planning and with motivation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quattrorunner (Post 10234288)
But it is a driving project which makes it doable.

A "Driving project" YES! That is key. As long as you can have it on the road, it keeps the project alive. I always say that if you can complete a project by the weekend, and then have it back on the road, you are good to go. Even by 2 weekends can usually survive The Kiss of Project Death -- at least my own experience.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quattrorunner (Post 10234288)
It was down for over a year twice! And I hated that but reality and life do get in the way. Also money. Porsche projects are not cheep.

It's tough to get a project back up after being down a year. I now have 2 projects that have been at least 90% completed, but have been down for 3 years now! I dread the inevitable, which is that other things have gone wrong with the car while it has sat there. I already know that I might as well face it that I will have to pull the engine/trans on my Porsche turbo project -- a thought that makes me consciously avoid even looking at the car.

flightlead404 10-31-2018 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baloo (Post 10234217)
Ha! You put your finger on it: commitment and SUSTAINMENT of that commitment. Very difficult.

I noticed a trend on this and several other forums about projects that start out gung-ho, but which peter out within months (I am no exception!).
So I ran a thread on this forum a few years ago about the innumerable reasons that projects fail, and fail often. Innumerable.
I have gotten the key to completion down to just a few factors -- there are always exceptions, but the trouble is that everyone thinks they are an exception....

Factors for success in completing a project BY ONESELF:
1) FAST COMPLETION: Car must be driveable within maybe 4 months (maybe even less, because most people's focus is probably about 1 month). Any extensions of time due to "because I was there" increase the likelihood of failure. Loss of interest in the project due some new shinier object is really really common.

2) MONEY: Cannot have a project down because you are waiting for more money. The longer you wait, the more likely that there will arise a hotter priority for the money (like kids' clothes, repairs for the Other Car, getting engaged, kid on the way, etc). So limit your project based on a realistic appraisal of your own finances -- and none of that BS that "I'll get a second job" or "my insurance or lawsuit check should be coming in" or "I'll cut back on my cigs or on my eating".

3) CAN DO IT ALL YOURSELF: You have to have the skills (and tools!) or have ready access to the skills/tools (like manuals, or even this forum) in order to carry on the project BY YOURSELF. Depending on a friend or neighbor to constantly come over to assist is a project killer. Everyone has their own stuff to do, and except for one-time friendly assistance, people just are not reliable and won't help for free.

4) GARAGE: You have to have a protected and air conditioned area to do the work. Working outside is a no-go in the long term. Lugging tools in and outside every time, waiting for better weather, etc, adds up quickly as a detractor for going out there to work on the project. (Kind of like having to drive 5 miles to a gym to work out -- a convenience factor that is a common reason gym memberships fail.)

5) TIME: If you have a paying job that requires your time or wears you out, you will lose the gumption and energy to work on the project.

6) SOLE PROJECT (linked with factor #5, TIME)! If you have several other projects going at the same time, bAMM! they all will suffer. Yah, this is my downfall -- I now have 4 great project cars besides all the house projects that keep popping up and demanding priority. I have found that this is a very very common situation for people in my age group (retired): money, garage, skills, and time are not the problem. The problem is diversion from the project at hand due to new priorities -- again all pointing to failure due factor #1, NO FAST COMPLETION.

It's unusual to hear on car forums about project failures -- people don't talk about them; you just hear about the successes.
But these failures is the reason that there are so many Barn Finds lurking around these days.

Totally agree with all those points. Just need to implement them :) Key it have the money IN HAND prior to starting.

I wish I could get down to 1 project at a time (or 2, or even 3 lol)

Of course, big projects are just made up of small projects. As long as there are completions you can celebrate along the way it helps

Rodsrsr 10-31-2018 12:03 PM

Thanks Tippy!

clutch-monkey 10-31-2018 02:47 PM

good list baloo.
only reason i get through my projects is that i always, ALWAYS, have something else to drive.
911 taking too long? no problem, can cruise around in GTR.
GTR inevitably off the road? all good, do some dirt rally in rx7.
etc


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