HP4 price annouced

[Scblacksunshine]

What do you guys think?

2013 BMW HP4 Pricing Announced - Motorcycle USA

The base model comes equipped with:
•DDC (Dynamic Damping Control) semi active suspension (a world first in production motorcycle construction)
•Launch control for optimal acceleration
•Akrapovic full titanium exhaust
•Seven-spoke forged aluminum wheels in gloss black
•Radial Brembo Monobloc brake calipers
•Race ABS with new IDM calibration
•DTC (Dynamic Traction Control) with new 14-step adjustability
•Gear shift assistant

The Standard Package (offered at an MSRP of $20,525) includes base equipment as well as:
•A Pillion Rider Package (priced at $285) featuring a rear seat and rear footrests to accommodate a rear pillion rider
•Heated Grips

The Premium Package (offered at an MSRP of $24,995) includes base equipment as well as:

•A Competition Package (priced at $4,470) featuring

-- HP carbon engine spoiler
-- HP carbon trim
-- HP folding clutch and brake levers
-- HP rider footrests – adjustable
-- Forged aluminum wheels in Racing Blue Metallic

-- Sponsor decal kit (not mounted)
•Pillion Rider Package (described above)
•Heated Grips

Optional extras – priced separately – include heated grips ($250) and an anti-theft alarm ($395).

[BoxerFanatic]

That seems like a lot of money for a bike that is really best used at the track.

It is kind of like a ZR1 Corvette, Viper, or a GT2 Porsche. A halo offering that gets lots of oohs and ahhhs...

but in the real world, the power can't be utilized, and I would think that the harsh dynamics become discouraging to even use.

Then again, I have never been a huge fan of super-sports and race-replica bikes for the street. They look cool on magazine covers, I can't imagine that they are as rewarding to ride at or near a speed limit.

And they hood-wink young novice riders into thinking that a hyper-sport is a cool bike to start on... which is dangerous.

That HP4 is an expert level machine with a narrow-focus on what it is truly good at... and public roads don't allow it.

I am sure it is a nice feather in BMW's cap... so to speak... but I wish they would get back to building truly innovative real-world road bikes... like a more interesting R1200R or a new R1200S.

[SergioK]

Boxerfanatic... but... but... I need one so I can look cool as I sip my latte.

[signit98]

...seeing how you list Heated grips as included and as a extra..... do they make double heated grips for riders in the northern states?

[shreddr]

for that kind of scratch you can buy one of these new and have Max put in the Wossner kit. The BST wheels might be a little extra

[DA900ex]

Except you'd be missing a few ponies and a boat load of technology.

[Dr. Curve]

So tempting........and yet so wrong for me. Why would I want to go out on a bike that weights less than anything in its class, has the most HP to weight ratio ever offered on a stock motorcycle, will run over 190 stock, stop from 60 to 0 in just over 100 feet, will adjust it's suspension and overall power delivery to ever-changing road surface, traction, lean angle, and power needs. It even does more, but why should I want to have one of these just to ride even one year..........even.

I have become aware of a ratio that is showing itself to be very accurate. When you get over the age of 35, a rider should start using a safety type ratio which might come in handy in caculating whether or not you might get any paticular bike

I call it the "rider age to peak HP ratio" or RA/HP for short. In the old days I had a 50 hp R75 and was 27 years old, thus my ratio was about one year of age for every 2 HP (50 divided by 27 = 1.85 HP per year of age)

Now as I look into this I see that my ratio has de-proved some.........with the 1000RR HP4's peak HP of 195.......my ratio would now be 2.82 HP per year of age. I have observed that anything over the ratio of 2.2 will end up getting you in trouble, if this ratio is applied to those riders 35 or older.

My ratio when I am on the HP2 Sport is a safer and more useful ratio of 1.91 HP per year of age.

[shreddr]

Originally Posted by DA900ex

Except you'd be missing a few ponies and a boat load of technology.

Yes, but I still have a HP/RA of 2.77 which has been shown to be perfect for me

[Dr. Curve]

Great Shred, and do enjoy those 50's because they are the best, besides you have plenty of riding left to do and now have the perfect bike for the task. Very high ratio but if you stay fit, and don't carry any agenda other than riding safe and responsible............anything is possible on that HP2 of yours. I sure am envious of it and I bet others are as well.

The ratio is for riders 35 to 70. Before 35.........any HP would have been OK, no matter how high, because we KNEW we could handle it. After 70.............any HP twice over ones actual age is most likely not wise but many do it anyway.

[tim22]

Originally Posted by shreddr

for that kind of scratch you can buy one of these new and have Max put in the Wossner kit. The BST wheels might be a little extra

HP4 an amazing feat for certain and congratulations to BMW, but I covet the HP2 S and still my all-time favorite.

[1100s nut]

It looks like a great bike and a great package at a decent price for what you get. As far as not being being able to utilize all that power....well most sport bikes above 600cc you can't or should not utilize all the power on the street.

I would guess 99% of the population would not realize its a "special bike". And a lot of motorcyclist would not know it either....so I don't see it as a poser bike....IMO. Most people would see it and say...that's one them there Honda motor sickles. Like every private jet is a Lear jet.

Lane

[Scblacksunshine]

Originally Posted by 1100s nut

It looks like a great bike and a great package at a decent price for what you get. As far as not being being able to utilize all that power....well most sport bikes above 600cc you can't or should not utilize all the power on the street.

I would guess 99% of the population would not realize its a "special bike". And a lot of motorcyclist would not know it either....so I don't see it as a poser bike....IMO. Most people would see it and say...that's one them there Honda motor sickles. Like every private jet is a Lear jet.

Lane

That's why IMHO HP2 is more special at least to the uninformed non-motorcyclist..it catches their attention everytime and definitely don't mix in like all the 600s and superbike out there

[1100s nut]

Originally Posted by Scblacksunshine

That's why IMHO HP2 is more special at least to the uninformed non-motorcyclist..it catches their attention everytime and definitely don't mix in like all the 600s and superbike out there

Yes agree..., without a doubt. I think The HP2S and the later Ducati 1098,1198`s are the best looking bikes on the planet. They are pretty and they look like they are dressed for work, and they are...the right tool for the job.

I would have a HP if did not have my love affair with my 2005 boxer cup...and probably going to add a GS next year.

Lane

[adrianw]

Never own a bike that has more horse power than you have IQ.

Adrian

[wiggledbits]

Originally Posted by adrianw

Never own a bike that has more horse power than you have IQ.

Adrian

The electronics on the HP4 has more IQ than me. I wonder if it will compensate for the HP to age ratio 3.518518518518518518518518518518 for me? Or maybe 518 to infinity has some special meaning., I know it would take that many months to pay it off.

[1100s nut]

Originally Posted by adrianw

Never own a bike that has more horse power than you have IQ.

Adrian

Wow...I guess we all need get rid of our bikes and buy something like an old airhead rt.

Lane

[ToyCollector]

Awesome machine Shreddr.

I debated the new HP4, not certain it will hold its value (not that I would expect it to). There is an absolute flood of used and overstock S1000RRs out there and prices have come down and have downward pressure on them. The S1000 is a silly machine for the street...I own one and use it the least. I think the money is better spent getting a gently used S1000 and a K1300S, or 3 R1100s, or a K bike and an R bike....you get the drift. $24K buys a lot in the used market right now.

[Clutch Cargo]

Originally Posted by 1100s nut

Wow...I guess we all need get rid of our bikes and buy something like an old airhead rt.Lane

hmm, if more than twice your age in hp is not wise then i must be a genius. i have a friend that bought a royal enfield. that should make him the smartest man in the universe.