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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Fairfax Station, VA
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IMS solution
I think I have a solution for the IMS issue. Why doesn't everyone here start visiting cancer websites instead of Porsche/Boxster websites? You'll have something new to obsess about and IMS failure rates will become much lower. At least it will seem so, since they'll be talked about much less.
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wtf.........whatever your beef, this is a pretty tasteless thread.......fo....
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Fairfax Station, VA
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean it to be tasteless. It's just that folks here seem to be obsessing about something that's relatively rare and not that important. Every Boxster owner I've talked with, with one exception, has never heard of the issue.
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Wichita, Kansas
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I hate guys who think they need to fix everyone else. Why should you care what perfect strangers obsess about? Get a life. |
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It's Not Irrelevant...
Perhaps you're tired of reading about it but at least you have a choice to not click on the links.
There's a whole cottage industry springing up around fixing the problem so it's not trivial to those affected and it wouldn't exist if it were so rare. If you're a conspiracy theorist, you can say they're hyping the problem. If you've been affected by it, you know it's real. Porsche has an interest in downplaying the problem and the aftermarket has an interest in magnifying the problem. No one knows the extent of the problem as discussed ad nauseam. However, we do know the cost of the solution. It's thousands of dollars, not hundreds. We also know it has driven the price of many good Boxsters down so, in a sense, we're all affected in some way. We know that Porsche tried three times to fix the problem before finally eliminated the cause. They wouldn't have done that for a "rare" occurrence.
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The more the IMS problem is hyped up, the cheaper u can get a Boxster for. Allow for an IMS when u consider buying a used Boxster and if the replacement is not done, deduct from offer price. $$$ saved if u so desire can go to charity. Then everybody is happy.... or most!
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Sanford NC
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The price of the Boxster you are buying today has already been impacted in a major way by the existence of the IMS problem, the publicity it has gotten and Porsche's lack of appropriate action on the problem. The problem has already cost Porsche more in upgrade sales of new cars than it would cost them to fix the problem in all cars where it occurs! Reputation is something awfully valuable to a company, the customer you have today is the cheapest one you'll ever get, to acquire a new customer costs an enormous amount.
Yes, the folks who developed the fixes have hyped their products (economics 101). Some of them have actually made money. Others haven't. Yes, we get tired hearing speculative, whining, rehashes of the same old subject. But not everyone who frequents the forum is as informed as some are. So show them a link or two, lets remember we were all newbies once. And if they are trolling, then the supplying of factual info will at least allow other readers to learn the facts. |
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Although I thought the way this post was done was tasteless I have to agree with Mike on many of his points regarding the IMS and the way it is handled on the web. Much of the redundancy I fault to the lack of moderator control as many of the posts are from the same newbies asking the same questions and the posts could be combined with a short note to the poster.
It is also a lack of effort put in by the newbie who typically doesn't bother to do a search and I say this with all humility as I'm as guilty of that as anyone especially when I started visiting Porsche web sites. I'm going to play devil's advocate for a moment and ask the question what if the number of IMS failures isn't all that great for Porsche to have put forth an effort other than to replace motors under warranty? after all no one really knows the true number of failures except Porsche. Without their data anything else is speculation. I personally know at least two dozen Boxster owners (probably more) of all model years and only one had an IMS failure at 130K miles. I think this is a topic much like the Kennedy assassinations, those who really know aren't talking and the conspiracy theorists have center stage. |
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