These Phillips screwdrivers SUCK!

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I don't have a Ryobi. The one I use is a DeWalt. That would be the yellow and black one in the upper right corner of the photo of my workbench that I posted in an earlier thread. I've used it, and as I said in the OP, the Milwaukee bits suck, even using the impact driver.

How'd you get the handsaw to hang like that? Magnet? Fairy dust?

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

How'd you get the handsaw to hang like that? Magnet? Fairy dust?

A hole would never work....but he's an engineer .

[cabmandone]

I don't know about screwdriver heads but I need you to come organize my shop!

[masraum]

Originally Posted by look 171

Phillips #2 bit isn't a Pozi driver.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2bkABuVQl&id=98BB6B73637F00D3B246031C760FA82BA0AF31F6&thid=OIP.-kABuVQlk8b9BKRDV0O8mQHaD4&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fbsfixings.uk%2fimages%2fpic tures%2fproduct%2fscrews%2fstainless-steel-screws-csk-pozi-self-tapper-(1200x630-ffffff).jpg%3fv%3d590b6ff9&exph=630&expw=1200&q=pozi+screw&simid=607988091350352772&selectedIndex=3&ajaxhist=0

Pozi screw head

Yep, that's why I had those two bits of info in 2 sentences, but thanks.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

How'd you get the handsaw to hang like that? Magnet? Fairy dust?

See the hole near the end of the blade? Most handsaws have a hole at the end (at least, all of the ones that I've had).

[javadog]

I'm going to add one more thing, that points out two different aspects to this discussion. One, there are surface finishes and treatments that some bits have that help prevent cam-out. Two, take a note in the difference of the angles and radii on these four bits. There is less standardization in the shape of a bit then there should be. The same can be said for screws, some are vastly better formed than others. I tend to buy all of my fasteners at supply houses , I never buy the (China) junk they sell in the box stores and general hardware stores. For existing screws, I always check the fit of the bit in the screw before using it.

https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2007/11/06/whats-the-difference-phillips-head-screwdriver-bits

[1990C4S]

As an added tip: For particularly difficult screws valve grinding paste on the bit helps.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by look 171

Phillips #2 bit isn't a Pozi driver.

Just learned this two weeks ago the hard way by gouging out two Pozi drive heads on a idle air control valve on an old Camry with a phillips driver. Did not Google task prior which produced many read flags re type of head.

In fairness they were already beat on.

What's funny is I looked through my stash of driver bits and had about eight of the Pozi drive bits. Just never knew.

[sugarwood]

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

You thinking it wasn't a pozi drive and was JIS since screws I bunged up were on a Tay-ota?

Sounds plausible.

[javadog]

Look for the little dot next to the recess on the head, that usually identifies it as a JIS screw

[sc_rufctr]

I thought of this thread when I watched this video... Milwaukee Shockwave gets tested.

Way more info than most normal people would care about but perfect for a tool geek like me.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

I thought of this thread when I watched this video... Milwaukee Shockwave gets tested.

Way more info than most normal people would care about but perfect for a tool geek like me.

After going through 3 pages of a 2 year old thread, I ASSUMED that there would be a spammer at the bottom who bumped it, to tell us in some secret spammer way about his company that makes screwdrivers.

[sc_rufctr]

I read this thread years ago and then I remember it whilst watching a video... but I can't remember someones name 10 seconds after they tell me the first time.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

I thought of this thread when I watched this video... Milwaukee Shockwave gets tested.

Way more info than most normal people would care about but perfect for a tool geek like me.

I watch his stuff too, right after Rick Beato.

[RWebb]

PB Swiss seems to have a bit design that works well

but Phillips Sux

[rwest]

I really like the Snap-on Phillips bits and screwdrivers.

Also am fond of something called P2R it’s a Phillips with a slight bulg or something that seems to work much nicer.

[Cajundaddy]

I've been using Makita bits for 30 yrs and... they just work. Set the clutch right for the job and drive screws all day. For mass production on wood decks or fences the square drive is a good alternative if a Phillips makes you crazy.

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

They were supposed to limit torque when assembling aluminum aircraft. But i’ve set thousands of Phillips screws of all kinds and sizes with many makes of Phillips bits in a portable drill. Most of the screws at Loews and HD have Phillips heads. I’ve never had problems like I have with these.
I don’t mind them popping out at a torque that will actually drive the screw in. I have had many, many Phillips head drivers that would drive a 2” #8 deck screw into pressure treated #2 pine far enough to bury the head. I’ve given up on using these Milwaukee bits for anything that big. They just strip out the heads.

I think your problem is you are using the in a drill. They are designed for an impact driver. A typical bit is equal to or softer than the screw so when it cams out it gives not the screw head. These are hardened so harder than the screw. Used with an impact driver it will jam down into the screw reducing cam out. Using with a drill when it tries to torque in a drill it will cam out and tear the screw.

[drcoastline]