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stealthn 05-12-2019 08:30 AM

That was a super boring race...

nota 05-12-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian 162 (Post 10442859)
Cup series is using Camaro, Mustang, and Camray bodied cars

the taxi-cab of tomorrow [nastycar standard body metal]
gets stickers to resemble the ford chevy or toy car it represents
mostly the motor is from the brand ONLY

BRAKES REAR END are standard parts all cars use as are the frame and other bits
inc all the sheet metal

there is very little ford or chevy parts used outside the motors

rfuerst911sc 05-12-2019 08:51 AM

Ferrari brings a new engine package in hopes of closing the gap to Mercedes and ends up fourth and fifth . When do heads start rolling ?

herr_oberst 05-12-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bkreigsr (Post 10456545)
Sad when the most exciting part of the race was the restart after the safety car laps.

It's just as sad that the most interesting aspect of all of Formula 1 racing is in the display of money and technology down to the last very last atom, and the least interesting is the time that the cars are on track for the race that all those millions were spent preparing for...

CurtEgerer 05-12-2019 09:15 AM

That's an interesting observation. If they didn't go out on track at all, it wouldn't hurt the overall show that much. :cool: The amazement is truly in the technology and engineering.

GH85Carrera 05-12-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 10456553)
That was a super boring race...



Yep.

freeform911 05-12-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 10456553)
That was a super boring race...

Yup..n just think Monaco is coming up...another boring a$$ race...
I personally think a sending cap should be in place...how is it possible the field is so far apart?

I've watch f1 for many years n each year seems to get worse, don't get it..

astrochex 05-12-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 10456553)
That was a super boring race...

Unless you’re Mercedes. Their domination is impressive. Can they finish 1 - 2 every race?

oldE 05-12-2019 10:38 AM

I think the car's potentials are closer than it appears. The difference is in the ability to "turn on "the tires.
Mercedes is able to do it. Ferrari is not. At Red Bull. Max can do it, Pierre cannot.
Also, Ferrari need to tap into the Pelican Brain Trust regarding when to pit drivers for new rubber or swap position on track. They let Vettel hold up Leclerc for too many laps while he was handicapped by flat spotted tires, then compounded the error by letting Leclerc hold up his teammate when Vettel was faster.
Can't their strategists follow a simple following time differential?
I'm glad the FIA has Mercedes' mailing address, so they can just send them the trophies for this season.

Best
Les

legion 05-12-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10456661)
Unless you’re Mercedes. Their domination is impressive. Can they finish 1 - 2 every race?

There's no better way to get all the other teams to agree on something than to have one team dominate. Williams, Ferrari, and McLaren have all had dominant periods. Look where they are now.

legion 05-12-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 10456673)
I think the car's potentials are closer than it appears. The difference is in the ability to "turn on "the tires.
Mercedes is able to do it. Ferrari is not. At Red Bull. Max can do it, Pierre cannot.
Also, Ferrari need to tap into the Pelican Brain Trust regarding when to pit drivers for new rubber or swap position on track. They let Vettel hold up Leclerc for too many laps while he was handicapped by flat spotted tires, then compounded the error by letting Leclerc hold up his teammate when Vettel was faster.
Can't their strategists follow a simple following time differential?
I'm glad the FIA has Mercedes' mailing address, so they can just send them the trophies for this season.

Best
Les

I think there is something to this. Ferrari have a very good car. Red Bull have a very good car. Mercedes have a very good car and a very good team. No matter where they end FP1, FP2, or FP3, they are always there for qualifying and the race. They run their program and get their cars set up. I'm sure their program is focused on optimizing tire performance based on the data they collect from practice. During the race, they never make obvious mistakes. They respond when they need to, but don't fall for fake outs. They don't spend too long making decisions.

chapo 05-12-2019 04:15 PM

Indycar race was a lot of fun, lots of passing and strategy with the rain coming. Recorded the F1 race but see no reason to watch it.

450knotOffice 05-12-2019 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10456661)
Unless you’re Mercedes. Their domination is impressive. Can they finish 1 - 2 every race?

I hate to say it, because Im pulling for Ferrari and am sick of Mercedes’ domination, but I see no reason why Mercedes won’t continue to finish 1-2 every race this year, unless they break down or crash somehow. They are just making this look too easy.

It’s super annoying to me. The races are predictable and boring. :rolleyes:

chapo 05-12-2019 08:31 PM

I wasted my time watching qualifying, won’t do that again. F1 is as bad or worse than NASCAR

herr_oberst 05-12-2019 08:41 PM

Remember when Williams were bringing engineering solutions to F1 that were so far ahead of the rest of the grid that they were banned?

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legion 05-14-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10427015)
^Are you aware that there is something fundamentally wrong with Kubica’s car? His car behaves differently than Russell’s and not in a good way. Its not a fair comparison at this time. He is struggling to figure out his car, but its inconsistent so figuring the chassis out is a moving target.

It doesn't look like there is/was anything wrong with Kubica's car:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/latifi-in-kubica-out-at-williams/

Quote:

Kubica had initially stated that he believes there is something wrong his chassis compared to Russell’s. However, when the latter was handed Kubica’s chassis for the Spanish GP, he still beat him.

This has led to reports that Kubica’s days with Williams could be numbered.

Noah930 05-14-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chapo (Post 10456922)
Indycar race was a lot of fun, lots of passing and strategy with the rain coming. Recorded the F1 race but see no reason to watch it.

That was an incredible race. Only caught the end of it, when the rain set in. Pagenaud's run on Dixon was great to watch.

Tervuren 05-14-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10457099)
Remember when Williams were bringing engineering solutions to F1 that were so far ahead of the rest of the grid that they were banned?

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Teams are still doing it today.

Take the ducts on 2014 Mercedes that were drawing air in at the rear wing and transferring it to the front wing through the entire chassis of the car, down through the front wing supports, etc, then exiting in specific places in the wing structure to reduce drag.

astrochex 05-14-2019 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 10458558)
It doesn't look like there is/was anything wrong with Kubica's car:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/latifi-in-kubica-out-at-williams/

I would hate for RK to be knowingly putting fake news out there. He has always been a straight shooter so this would really hurt his reputation.

If he is realizing he cannot drive an F1 car the way he thought he could, that would be a huge blow.

CurtEgerer 05-14-2019 03:18 PM

via GP247:

(Gordon) Murray still follows Formula One, and was at the Bahrain Grand Prix, but feels it needs to do “something fundamental” to create more excitement and better racing.

“They really have to,” he said. “It´s a drivers´ championship first and foremost.”

Murray would like to see less downforce, with tiny wings front and back, and more design freedom in the centre of the car. “We just had so much fun in the days when you could think of an idea, build the parts the next week and go a second and a half a lap quicker at the next grand prix,” he said.

“These days its hundreds and hundreds of hours in the wind tunnel and then a tiny little front wing change and you find two-tenths of a second. I find that really difficult to get excited about.”


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