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Nothing better than watching a pro do his job. My electrician cousin does stuff for me once on while; quick, thorough and done right.

I’ll ask if so and so minds if I watch. Never a problem. I’ve discovered that most pros enjoy teaching and explaining stuff. Sometimes it looks like they’re doing an extra step when actually their experience has taught them doing it a certain way is more efficient in the long run and maybe not so obvious on the current job.

I’ve been known to hand Mr. Know-it-all the tool and just stepped back to watch. Usually, a quick apology ensues with no more ‘advce’.
I watched and chatted a little with the guy that replaced our front door. When we move in, it was a rather ugly, steel door. It was secure, but just not a great presentation. My wife decided it had to go, so we bought a solid core wood door with a decorative small window, and lots of detail on the door. We paint it, before it was hung.

The installer showed up on time, and first thing threw the instructions in the trash pile. He never had to stop and start over, just total pro step by step, super long monster screws into the new jamb. Drill the holes, and watch the door swing shut, click. After 10+ years it still hangs like a door should, and the lock is smooth and dead centered. It was cool to watch him work. We were more than happy to pay him full price, and recommend him to friends.

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Old 02-18-2019, 07:20 AM
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You are working . Everything is just fine. Along comes joe jack know it all , know nothing. Starts to question why you are doing it a certain way. Tells you how he would do it, or how his uncle does it. Stops, or slows you from doing what you could do with your eyes closed , and then gets you involved in a dissertation about why his way is better.
Tells you what tools you need, and how they will make your job easier.
Meanwhile, he has never done it, only watched someone else do it, or read about it on the internet. Yet, you have done it your whole life .
I just had a guy walk in this morning while I was struggling to get some 10 ply truck tires to seat on big fat rims.
He keeps telling me I need to strap them, need to ether them. My way wont work.. His Dad always did them this way..... I got them on in 20 minutes, the same way I do it every time ,right after he left .
We have a guy at the rentals, who I am sending home first thing in the morning. I simply cannot work around or with him ever again. I will not.
he did this to me all weekend last week. he actually corrected the way, I was nailing a temporary 2x4 to the wall. So, not only is he not getting the work done he is supposed to , he is also holding me up from doing my job , all the while making me really angry by arguing with me.
I found myself arguing with him at least 5 times, while working on my own house doing stuff that I regularly do without any hassles .
There is nothing I love more than working with a true pro, and learning and watching how they do it. Really appreciate it when they are proud of their craft, and like to share with me .
There is nothing I hate more than working with a know it all , all talky, no worky guy.
I'm sure you all know one .
That is my Friday rant. have a good one boys !


Nope, not a problem for me.
I'd shut him up in a matter of seconds and he'd leave with his feewings hurt and never bother me again.

Life is too short to suffer fools and be a victim.
Old 02-19-2019, 07:24 AM
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This thread reminded me of a day almost forty years ago when I was delivering for the Dairy. I was adding up an invoice at a restaurant and was about a third of the way through the column of figures when the cook interrupted me with a question. After answering, I couldn't remember where I was and started adding up again. Then came a second question. I marked my place and answered. When I returned to the invoice, I couldn't be sure whether I had already added in the figure I had marked, so started again from the beginning. At this point the cook asked whether I was ever going to get the invoice added up. My mouth ran away with me
"I would if somebody would shut the fuch up!"
She turned and walked back into the kitchen.

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Old 02-19-2019, 04:29 PM
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I watched and chatted a little with the guy that replaced our front door. When we move in, it was a rather ugly, steel door. It was secure, but just not a great presentation. My wife decided it had to go, so we bought a solid core wood door with a decorative small window, and lots of detail on the door. We paint it, before it was hung.

The installer showed up on time, and first thing threw the instructions in the trash pile. He never had to stop and start over, just total pro step by step, super long monster screws into the new jamb. Drill the holes, and watch the door swing shut, click. After 10+ years it still hangs like a door should, and the lock is smooth and dead centered. It was cool to watch him work. We were more than happy to pay him full price, and recommend him to friends.
I'll do it again, anytime.
Old 02-19-2019, 06:00 PM
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John Walker summed it up this way: "No waiters, No Watchers"......I got it......

I've worked on motorcycles steady for over 55 years......My friend that has watched a few YouTube's thinks he knows more than I do...........He's never even checked his valve clearances because he read his model rarely needs adjusting.......
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:13 PM
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Yes, I know this guy. I generally keep my garage door closed. < wink >
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:34 PM
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Kach came to visit?
Holy crap, before I got halfway through the OP's first post I was thinking this as well.

Kach sure has built a reputation for himself around here, hasn't he?
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:50 PM
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Tabs came to visit?
You could have been more creative in making me your foil...you should have.....
Old 02-19-2019, 11:24 PM
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You could have been more creative in making me your foil...you should have.....
I hate musicians too...

I gots no problem tellin' em....

You're playing it ALL wrong
Old 02-20-2019, 02:53 AM
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You are working . Everything is just fine. Along comes joe jack know it all , know nothing. Starts to question why you are doing it a certain way. Tells you how he would do it,
I worked in a lab full of engineers for 10 years, so yeah, I know that guy, and several brothers and cousins.
There is that, plus the , "nooOO!" As in:

Me - "What time is it?"
Engineer 1 - "Noon."
Engineer 2 - "NooOO! It's 11:59:32"
Engineer 3 - "NooOO! It's 11:59:35"
And on and on...

Or:
"What time is it?"
They start in. By the time they finish they have told me when and who invented the clock, how to build a clock out of wood, how to built a clock out of garbage, how to change batteries on their new watch - but they CANNOT tell me the frikken current time.

Or,
Me - "I'm going to paint my house green, anybody recommend a good brand of paint?"
Engineer 1 - "You should paint it red."
Engineer 2 - "Install aluminum siding and be done with it."
Engineer 3 - "No, vinyl siding!"
Me - walking out the door, with NO useful information.

I have only worked with a few engineers that acted like normal humans. I tried to be one of them, and it finally drove me out of the profession.

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