Do you believe in ghosts ?

[porsche356a]

Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/gNQIdEv-Emo

[livi]

I suppose most of us have seen herr Schrödinger´s cat at some point.

[kach22i]

Dark Shadow and Ripple of Light; Ball Lightning or My own Ghost Tale?


Weird stuff happens.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

So all those “ghosts” everywhere but not one scintilla of proof. No clear phots, movies just Bigfoot like blurry shaky poppycock videos. In a world where millions of people walk around videoing everything.

But:


Here is the deal for me: I hate all of this ghost stuff, would prefer the only ghost in my life was attached to Mrs. Muir. Unfortunately,circumstances dictated otherwise.

Hope Lange was no Gene Tierney, btw.

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

But:


Here is the deal for me: I hate all of this ghost stuff, would prefer the only ghost in my life was attached to Mrs. Muir. Unfortunately,circumstances dictated otherwise.

Hope Lange was no Gene Tierney, btw.

Pretty much this, and I'm not posting up for gawkers.

[tabs]

Let us put it in this perspective...SOMETHING HAPPENED which effected the observer both emotionally and intellectually to a greater or lessor degree. The fact that someone thought it was note worthy enough to mention and relate indicates that it was unusual, out of the ordinary where it can not be attributed to the usual suspects.

The question who is to doubt the life experience of a person with a otherwise sound mind? The question then becomes what was it? When you separate out all the usual suspects of rationality then you are left with it being unknown. You then have to go farther afield in your explanation as to what caused that experience. Then you have to ponder the possibility of ascribing it to what the collective memory of man (the data bank) has ascribed it to over the millennium. A ghost.

The consistency of people's perceptions over time weeds out the chafe...silly notions fall by the way side over time, like Disco...or Phrenology.

[Rednine11]

Maybe Bigfoot is Blurry ??????
might not be the pics at all ...........

They have known what it is for years. a descendant of Gigantopithecus Blacki. They have teeth and some bones. Its basically a very large Orangutan
well if it existed that is.........I have to protect myself from tin foil hat island.

[Bob Kontak]

I don't want to believe in ghosts. Newton and the basic laws of physics as understood by this layman prevail. You need mass to move mass.

However, the walker being moved and Sooner or later's box sliding sound story gave me the willies.

If I was in that basement I would not have made it to the bucket.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

I don't want to believe in ghosts.

However, the walker being moved and Sooner or later's box sliding sound story gave me the willies.

The absolute last thing I would ask to enter my life would start with "paranormal", "extraterrestrial" f'ing anything or, for the love of god, "ghost".

I am a fallen Catholic (and I can't get up), but watching the local Priest work our old rental house ten years ago (ghosts) was all I needed to know.

He told me to simply deny their presence. I have that skill. Always will.

The Priest scared the absolute bejesus out of me since I preferred my bejesus without intervention.

BTW, I would so want to be on the other squad, the denier squad, trust me.

[Tobra]

Yes, seen too many things that don't have a logical explanation.

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Hope Lange was no Gene Tierney, btw.

GD straight, Gene Tierney was about the prettiest woman who ever lived, though Paulette Goddard was right up there too.

[craigster59]

I might have posted this before, but there's an old hospital that has been around since the early 1900's in various forms in East L.A. across from Hollenbeck Park. As it stands today it retains a lot of the rooms and architecture from the 1920's thru 50's. It was used as the hospital for employees of the Santa Fe Railroad, later used by a medical collective and then pretty much vacant and abandoned to be used as a filming location.

It has hallways, patient rooms, O.R rooms, morgue, etc. I've spent many hours there filming, many times past midnight. We even shot a Schwarznegger film "End Of Days" there where we crucified a "Priest" and dangled him from the ceiling, blood dripping down onto his bed.

Anyway, I'm channel surfing and they had one of those "Ghost Hunter" shows on and were doing a 2 hour special on this place. They had the usual "ectoplasm detector" and the tape recorder with the garbled "Get out!", you know, the normal crap.

Point is, I've spent easily over 500 hrs there at all hours, wandering the halls and hadn't felt nary a cool breeze much less some shadowy figure darting through the halls. Maybe there are ghosts but there sure as Hell aren't any in that joint.

[beatnavy]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

I am a fallen Catholic (and I can't get up), but watching the local Priest work our old rental house ten years ago (ghosts) was all I needed to know.

He told me to simply deny their presence. I have that skill. Always will.

That's the key - realize they can't hurt you (even if they exist). We ALL have bigger problems to worry about (e.g., "our immortal soul" in the words of Fulton Sheen). Because of that, I can honestly say a ghost wouldn't scare me. I mean, it WOULD absolutely get my attention, but they can't hurt me or my immortal soul. But then I am a practicing, but hardly perfect, Catholic.

Put another way: you hear lots of people reporting unusual experiences, which may or may not be easily explained. When was the last time you heard a credible case, anywhere, of someone actually harmed like in the horror movies? Doesn't happen.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by craigster59

I might have posted this before, but there's an old hospital that has been around since the early 1900's in various forms in East L.A. across from Hollenbeck Park. As it stands today it retains a lot of the rooms and architecture from the 1920's thru 50's. It was used as the hospital for employees of the Santa Fe Railroad, later used by a medical collective and then pretty much vacant and abandoned to be used as a filming location.

It has hallways, patient rooms, O.R rooms, morgue, etc. I've spent many hours there filming, many times past midnight. We even shot a Schwarznegger film "End Of Days" there where we crucified a "Priest" and dangled him from the ceiling, blood dripping down onto his bed.

Anyway, I'm channel surfing and they had one of those "Ghost Hunter" shows on and were doing a 2 hour special on this place. They had the usual "ectoplasm detector" and the tape recorder with the garbled "Get out!", you know, the normal crap.

Point is, I've spent easily over 500 hrs there at all hours, wandering the halls and hadn't felt nary a cool breeze much less some shadowy figure darting through the halls. Maybe there are ghosts but there sure as Hell aren't any in that joint.

They're more scared of you than you are of them.

I haven't spent that much time in anyplace that's old or seems likely to have ghosts, but what the hell, I'm nearly 50 and I've been around. Yep, I must be scary to ghosts as well. It makes me a little sad.

[GH85Carrera]

Another "friend of a friend" story. A couple we know were in the process of buying a bed and breakfast place in Eureka Springs, AR to live in, and make some money. The previous owners had always claimed the place is haunted, and even had warning signs that the place is haunted and they really pushed the possibility clients might see a ghost. Very few people were scared away, and lots of people loved the idea, and wanted to see a ghost.

When the closing was approaching the old owners admitted, the ghost story is all hype, and the owners would put on a all black outfit, and go down the hall in the middle of the night and make spooky noises, make sure floors creaked, and move things around.

Just like Roswell, NM has aliens and Loch Ness makes millions from promoting the Loch Ness monster, it was just a scam to get tourists. The new owners put an end to it. They still have guests wanting the hauted room. The rent it, and never say anything about the ghost.

It does not prove or disprove a thing, except some business owners will fake ghosts to gain business.

[fastfredracing]

The mad pooper has been caught and reprimanded. Also, it was discovered, that the entire dining room ( where my drill turned on) had current shorted to earth. I kept getting zapped touching the light fixture over the dining room table, and pipes in that room . Not sure if that had something to do with my drill or not.
I still feel uneasy in the basement.. I think I just have myself freaked out a little . I was down there all weekend again, and found myself constantly looking over my shoulder down there .

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by fred cook

Savannah, Georgia is one of the most haunted places in the United States! ............

A married couple at the cigar lounge on Saturday morning were telling us all about the recent ghost tours they took there.

I told them about the Whitney in Detroit and how my friends give ghost tours there (I assisted one night), they had not heard of it but are now interested.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

I don't want to believe in ghosts. Newton and the basic laws of physics as understood by this layman prevail. You need mass to move mass.

Are you sure about this?

Energy can interact with mass, in fact it's hard to have one without the other.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/78300/does-lightning-have-mass

So, technically speaking, the mass of a lightning bolt could be the sum of all the electrons and the plasma within the electrical charge channel.

Last time I checked lightning can do more than move mass, it can rip it to shreds.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Are you sure about this?

Energy can interact with mass, in fact it's hard to have one without the other.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/78300/does-lightning-have-mass


Last time I checked lightning can do more than move mass, it can rip it to shreds.

Lightning is massive voltage and lots of amps as well. All that is a LOT of heat as all forms of energy create heat. The thunder is the atmosphere slapping back together after the lightning has had the force to push it out of the way. In short, MASSIVE amounts of energy. A human that lived to 100 and was active all his life could not generate that much power in a lifetime of work.

It takes energy to move anything. The old, "objects at rest remain at rest" bit. To move a feather or a dust bunny a millimeter requires energy. To move a solid object like a door, requires a lot more energy.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Lightning is massive voltage and lots of amps as well. All that is a LOT of heat as all forms of energy create heat. The thunder is the atmosphere slapping back together after the lightning has had the force to push it out of the way. In short, MASSIVE amounts of energy. A human that lived to 100 and was active all his life could not generate that much power in a lifetime of work.

It takes energy to move anything. The old, "objects at rest remain at rest" bit. To move a feather or a dust bunny a millimeter requires energy. To move a solid object like a door, requires a lot more energy.

What if gravity and or friction were altered?

Then it takes a lot less energy to move laterally.

Magnetic levitation

If you have ever tried to budge a door a ghost wants closed, let me tell you, you cannot even get the wood panels of the door to deflect in a normal fashion when putting your shoulder into it, the door material and frame become fused like a solid steel plate, no flex. And forget using the door knob, it's like welded. Oh, and it can get cold as ice in the middle of summer.

Energy?

We don't really understand it, can measure it and use it but do we really understand it?

If we really understand it, then where are my anti-gravity boots?

[GH85Carrera]

Ah, so ghosts can alter gravity? And they can create as much energy as lightning. Dang, we need to trap some and harness them as a green new deal energy source that is totally fossil fuel free.

Next you will claim they operate at quantum levels and that is why they are hard to track.

Yea, in extreme (not on Earth) conditions time itself slows down at near light speeds. So what? Gravity, and energy in normal human life supporting conditions just don't change.