All Things Aviation Related

[svandamme]

Not that much in there, other than clearly he lost SA for that King Cobra who was not flying section with the Mustangs but clearly did follow the same instructions..

AirBos sounds really young and exited to me.. even before the mishap.. Sadly I think this is a case of poor choice to be airboss..
Inexperienced, and not imagining enough ways how things can go wrong..

[daepp]

Surprised there's no chatter here about the NOTAM system going down. And Canada's "unrelated" NOTAM failure the same day. And the Philippine's last month.

[FA-18C]

The NOTAM system sounds like it was a failure during a planned update. Deleted a specific file that caused the issue. Hard for me to understand why this shut down airspace at all. For 20 years I flew and to check NOTAMS, called and listened to their recording, OR, looked at what was on their air ops site. Airborne, they are broadcast on the radio...

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by FA-18C

The NOTAM system sounds like it was a failure during a planned update. Deleted a specific file that caused the issue. Hard for me to understand why this shut down airspace at all. For 20 years I flew and to check NOTAMS, called and listened to their recording, OR, looked at what was on their air ops site. Airborne, they are broadcast on the radio...

Sounds like something on the DB server, like Oracle Dataguard config file schwacked and then Oracle just scrams to protect the data integrity.
And while its quick and easy to fix, IF you know Oracle , it probably took a while 1 to notice it was down and 2 to find the right Oracle dude who fixed the glitch..;

Not saying it was Oracle, but its really a typical scenario I've seen in the Healthcare world, where a small missing file causes an outage like that.

It has to be the DB, because most if not everything else is already redundant and would not bring the entire system down.. the DB is the hub the rest are spokes so my money is on the DB

[daepp]

Originally Posted by FA-18C

The NOTAM system sounds like it was a failure during a planned update. Deleted a specific file that caused the issue. Hard for me to understand why this shut down airspace at all. For 20 years I flew and to check NOTAMS, called and listened to their recording, OR, looked at what was on their air ops site. Airborne, they are broadcast on the radio...

But Canada has the same problem a few hours later? And they claim they're separate systems? Makes me worry about a being hacked.

[FA-18C]

I suspect it is probably more about common data bases. The system evolved from input from government experts. So you can imagine, it is last decade's technology with an ever increasing data file size and patchworks to maintain interoperability. The entire system failed back in 2008 as well, and was shut down cold for 6 hours to reboot. There is no reason they should have crushed the industry by cancelling thousands of flights. Aircrew, towers and ground should be able to communicate effectively to keep things safe.

[svandamme]

"Should".. but people in their cars should also supposed to be able to safely get their cars across and intersection when the traffic lights are out.. reality is different

I think the military and civil airline pilots, and most pro's probably could do as you say
But suspect a lot of others are liable to do silly things when the regular system of dealing with information goes out?
You know the ones: barely had enough recent IFR hours and decide that they really must go fly to their leisure destination for a weekend out with the GF , ending up with headwind, IMC and dest airport closes while their fuel pump is sucking fumes from the tank..

Perhaps those "should" be able to , but there's a lot of em that can't?

[FA-18C]

That is the underlying risk of making everything electronic and "automatic." When there is a glitch or failure, suddenly we are gridlocked.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by FA-18C

That is the underlying risk of making everything electronic and "automatic." When there is a glitch or failure, suddenly we are gridlocked.

I haven't filed a flight plan in almost 20 years (yikes!) but the whole NOTAM system was never a real issue in flight planning...all paper in the early days of my career.

With ATIS and enroute control, I just didn't understand the shutdown....but it has been a while

[svandamme]

SH , cannot embed it, but you'll like this

https://dailybuzz.nl/media/2023/1/19/ed790ac0-97fd-11ed-b7f1-10ddb1b30d21/vuurwerk_helikopter_web_wm.mp4

[daepp]

Seeing those boosters land upright - well, it never gets old!

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

I haven't filed a flight plan in almost 20 years (yikes!) but the whole NOTAM system was never a real issue in flight planning...all paper in the early days of my career.

With ATIS and enroute control, I just didn't understand the shutdown....but it has been a while

You should see things these days. I retired a year ago but still do contract work for flight departments. Its running about 75% these days for pilots who never have a piece of paper in the cockpit, instead scribbling on an I-pad (which I hate) to save things. We then power the jet up with the APU, log onto CPDLC via KUSA and that downloads our IFR clearance and complete routing into the FMS's.

Taking off is normal but often when using CPDLC we never even talk on the radio, as a freq change is pushed to us while in the air, we just hit the transfer button and hit "accept" so that they know we are on the new freq. Head down the line a ways and another data-link MSG comes across "change to freq" and its done.

Same once going "feet wet" and we almost never talk on the HF anymore, its all satellite datalink/CPDLC these days.

Some of these kids rarely look out of the window and do not have a clue what to do when the cockpit goes dark in flight...

[john70t]

Originally Posted by javadog

Talk about silly offerings, you could’ve been the guinea pig selected to test pilot this turd:

https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/facts-about-focke-wulf-triebflugel

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by svandamme

https://dailybuzz.nl/media/2023/1/19/ed790ac0-97fd-11ed-b7f1-10ddb1b30d21vuurwerk_helikopter_web_wm.mp4

I need some alone time.

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Technical warning!

Thanks, Joe.

I hope all is well!!!

[Robert Coats]

Easy Trivia Time:

What aircraft was used by both the Navy's Blue Angels and the Air Force's Thunderbirds?

Misleading Hint: The prototype first flew in 1958...

Navy Version Here
Air Force Version Here

[dlockhart]

[Heel n Toe]

Too funny ^

[fanaudical]

One of my long-time hobbies is PC-based flight simulation. I've been playing with EC135's in X-Plane for a bit and was looking at some real-world vids for pointers. Thought I would share these:

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by Robert Coats

Easy Trivia Time:

What aircraft was used by both the Navy's Blue Angels and the Air Force's Thunderbirds?

Misleading Hint: The prototype first flew in 1958...

Navy Version Here
Air Force Version Here

F4, Marines used it as well, but not for flight displays.

[john70t]

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Eurocopter_AS365_Dauphin