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[rsrguy]

Anyone own a rag wing piper?

https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/piper-rudder-ad-comment-period-extended/

[KNS]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Is that actually bombs? Or does it hold sonobouoys?

I used the term "Bomb Bay" generically. Seahawk night be able to better describe what weapons are utilized.

[KNS]

Those are actually Hispano Buchons - Spanish built Messerchmitts with Rolls Royce Merlin engines. They were used in the film "Battle of Britain" (notice the paint schemes). Collector Connie Edwards in Texas bought several of them after filming. Photo taken at his ranch.

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

[oldE]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Is that actually bombs? Or does it hold sonobouoys?

Torpedoes would be the primary weapon carried in the weapons bay. Sonobouys would be deployed through the red circled pairs of ports aft of the weapons bay. Flares can be dropped fron the after most ports, I believe.

Best
Les

[Skytrooper]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Is that actually bombs? Or does it hold sonobouoys?

The P-8 Poseidon can carry two anti-ship cruise missiles on each wing, five torpedoes and other weapons like deep-water bombs in the internal weapons bay and pylons located aft of the main gear. It is a very effective aircraft !

[Robert Coats]

Unlike most other military aircraft, the P-8's weapons are in an aft bomb bay or externally mounted on wing hard points.



Sonobuoys used to track a sub are stored inside the cabin, so mission commanders have maximum flexibility to deploy 1/2 dozen different types of buoys at will, depending on the mission profile and changing needs during a flight. An crew member can then load and deploy any style of buoy using a series of airlock-style tubes or a rotary-style launcher so the main cabin can remain pressurized.



Older P-3C models loaded buoys externally in a series of non-pressurized tubes, which was better than the old P-3A/B which had to depressurize to drop buoys, or be limited to a single 'airlock' tube for one-at-a-time deployment and so the cabin could stay pressurized.

[greglepore]

Originally Posted by Robert Coats

Unlike most other military aircraft, the P-8's weapons are in an aft bomb bay or externally mounted on wing hard points.



Sonobuoys used to track a sub are stored inside the cabin, so mission commanders have maximum flexibility to deploy 1/2 dozen different types of buoys at will, depending on the mission profile and changing needs during a flight. An crew member can then load and deploy any style of buoy using a series of airlock-style tubes or a rotary-style launcher so the main cabin can remain pressurized.



Older P-3C models loaded buoys externally in a series of non-pressurized tubes, which was better than the old P-3A/B which had to depressurize to drop buoys, or be limited to a single 'airlock' tube for one-at-a-time deployment and so the cabin could stay pressurized.

Very nice. Forgot you crewed on these. Lived for years under the approach for NAS Willow Grove, they ran a squad of P3's out of there for a long time. Now a paff superfund site.

[Heel n Toe]

[Robert Coats]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Very nice. Forgot you crewed on these. Lived for years under the approach for NAS Willow Grove, they ran a squad of P3's out of there for a long time.

I spend Jan-March of '81 at Willow Grove when they had two P-3 Reserve Squadrons still there. Because the base housing was full every drill weekend, I spend the whole three months off-base at a hotel. Of course, that meant an uphill hike in the snow each way to get to class .

When our orders came through, being a reserve guy, I already knew I was being transferred out of active duty and headed back home to my reserve squadron at NAS Jacksonville. The other poor saps where all regular Navy, and were sweating bullets; would they go to P-3s? Helos? or would 1 or 2 get lucky and head to the S-3 Viking Jet on a carrier? I recall everyone got orders to P-3s, as this was right after Regan was sworn in and the Navy was going NUTS to really clamp down on the Soviet Navy, especially submarines.

[afterburn 549]

It is quite oxymoronic that 50 years or more back, the flying wing was said to be and deemed very unstable and not worth pursuing.
(after the German wing discovery)
Now, amateur aircraft (experimental) and radio control folks all report these to be very stable and self-correcting.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

It is quite oxymoronic that 50 years or more back, the flying wing was said to be and deemed very unstable and not worth pursuing.
(after the German wing discovery)
Now, amateur aircraft (experimental) and radio control folks all report these to be very stable and self-correcting.

Jack Northrop had several very successful prototypes. The YB49 had some yaw instability and certainly would crash if you stalled it. But for the most part there were no serious issues with most designs.

[Robert Coats]

I'm a bit of an military history buff, and after the end of The Great War (a.k.a., WWI) the allied were SOOO adamant about the Germans developing powered aircraft, they clamped down on any development of specific aircraft after the war. But, the language was not precise enough to say that gilders and non-piston aircraft were off-limits. So, the Germans took up gilders and rockets, and thus were able the V1 and V2 rockets, as well as advance rocket tech so far advanced both the US and Soviet raced to capture the scientists post-war to gleam the secrets. Google Operation Paperclip for details

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by rsrguy

Anyone own a rag wing piper?

https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/piper-rudder-ad-comment-period-extended/

I have a '55 TriPacer converted to a Pacer.... Mine is in great shape and was a show winning restoration in the early 90's. Hopefully this AD does not go into effect any time soon.

[john70t]

[rsrguy]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

I have a '55 TriPacer converted to a Pacer.... Mine is in great shape and was a show winning restoration in the early 90's. Hopefully this AD does not go into effect soon

I like that alot... my first bird was a 53 tripe... I think if the rudder is 74 or newer it's good. Hopefully your resto Included a new rudder and it was logged.

[KNS]

Another Osprey tiltrotor has crashed. The military has chosen the Bell V-280 Valor (pictured) as the Army's replacement for the Blackhawk. Is the tiltrotor a flawed design?

[oldE]

The tilt rotor concept is not inherently flawed, but the engineering of torque transfer in single engine flight has caused problems with tragic consequences. According to reports, there was an engine fire on this flight.

Les

[afterburn 549]

If they do not have a way to run those things from one engine they are a suicide ship.
I for my part figured they must have a drive train transmission, ( like the rear prop Lear Fan jet did) in the event of a failure it would all go pretty well.
Without that, even a small deviation in power would be catastrophic!

[oldE]

The Osprey does indeed have the capability to run both props from one engine. It seems the weakness is within that system. Whether the engine fire reported in this crash was a cause or contributing factor is not yet clear.

Best
Les

[DRONE]

And no auto rotation as a safe backup.