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[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by gamin

Yup. That's what we called the A-3. Our squadron averaged losing one per year. My room mate was killed in one by a cold cat shot on the FDR. Too fast to stop, too slow to fly. No ejection seats. Broke up and sank. I had to call his folks.

That had to be rough. Hard to do.

I had one flight in an A-3, land based out of North Island for some testing we were doing in the '80's with a new radar data processor for airborne targets with the SH-60B radar.

The A-3 was flying specific patterns and I was doing data collection. There was also some range tracking sensors on the A-3 to verify the location (GPS wasn't on the A-3).

The Whale.

No seat quals and I spent a few hours getting requaled on parachutes and then a few minutes learning the egress from the A-3.

Different world.

[pavulon]

[Jolly Amaranto]

When my family lived on Guam in the mid 60s our house was right under the approach to the Naval Air Station. I had fun taking photos of the under side of aircraft. An A-3.

[edgemar]

[edgemar]

[edgemar]

Why would anyone take off in a single-engine plane... even a twin when there is ground fog? It seems like a really bad idea.

Kathryn's Report: Beechcraft V35 Bonanza, N7933M: Fatal accident occurred December 04, 2021 near Visalia Municipal Airport (KVIS), Tulare County, California

[flipper35]

Maybe he thought he could take off IFR and get above the fog.

[edgemar]

If you have a problem in the fog such as an engine loss, I don't know you could get the plane down safely. How can you land when you can't see anything?

This was a close one:

[rattlsnak]

looks like it was @ 2 1/2 miles visibility and @300 overcast... typical day in the northeast this time of year... many people do it all the time...would have to know why he crashed to further explain. (mechanical failure, loss of SA, not IFR proficient, etc..

[Dansvan]

My limited understanding of the DC3 crash. Lost engine, feathered prop, prop wouldnt stay feathered creating a ton of drag. Kept wheels up to reduce drag, barely made it to the runway. Took the tops off the trees on the way. Balls of steel

[edgemar]

Looks like the right prop was feathered. I bet they were really heavy. You can hear the left engine firewalled in the video.

[rattlsnak]

Outstanding job by the crew!

[Brown747]

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by edgemar

Looks like the right prop was feathered. I bet they were really heavy. You can hear the left engine firewalled in the video.

At 24 seconds in you can see the right prop still turning.

[GH85Carrera]

My dad flew C-47s in the Air Force. He talked about one flight going into Hondo TX with a high ranking civilian employee on board. It was one of the president's cabinet members that insisted he get to Hondo. Dad said the fog was so heavy they tried to talk the guy out of them landing there, but he insisted. They finally landed in zero zero conditions, and all they saw was one more runway light. He figured he had overshot the runway and was about to run off the runway, he had on all the brakes and then another light showed up through the fog. The got stopped and could not see any taxiway.

He called for a "follow me" truck to lead them back to the ramp. It took the follow me truck 25 minutes to find them on the runway, and he ended up running into the tail of the airplane.

Dad was very upset with the entire episode and unhappy with the orders to land in those conditions. The ironic part is it was one of his smoothest landing and the cabinet member was deep in paperwork and was shocked at the conditions when he walked off the airplane.

[Brown747]

Aircraft was doing a UPS charter to Kodiak. Most likely bulked out with volume not weight maxed.

[t6dpilot]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Dad was very upset with the entire episode and unhappy with the orders to land in those conditions. The ironic part is it was one of his smoothest landing and the cabinet member was deep in paperwork and was shocked at the conditions when he walked off the airplane.

Three key words - Pilot In Command...

Tough call sometimes, but you and your crew are the ones that make those decisions, not passengers. Glad your dad made it to terra firms safely.

[Seahawk]

What I loved about the video was the radio discipline. Weird, I know, but a real Pilot/Navigator skill is learning how to communicate on the radio.

Some never get it. Great video.

I had a Special Instrument Card, which meant I could take off in zero/zero conditions.

I did it once: Left McClellan Air Force Base in the Tule fog for NAS North Island, San Diego which was CAVU.

It is an odd sensation.

[flipper35]

Looks like Croc is back in business?

https://www.flyingmag.com/worlds-largest-airplane-to-launch-hypersonic-aircraft/