Surprised it wasn't a thread already! 2020 mid engine Vette

[ramonesfreak]

I totally agree with you. It looks like someone said make it look like a Ferrari but not too much like a Ferrari and whoever was in charge of executing that directive just added a ton of stupid lines and bling including unfortunately making that air scoop trim on the side black so as to differentiate it a little.

It’s like a musician steeling a melody from someone else but adding an extra chord change or two to try to make it their own.

In this case, I would actually respect the corvette more if they just went ahead and totally ripped off Ferrari (I would love a new $60k Ferrari 😜 )

As for the interior, I’m starting to think I could grow to like it

I known $60k is a good price for a car like this but $60k is still a lot of money and for that, I want to love how it looks every time from every angle.

No car is perfect today. Even the 992 has some design issues to my eyes, though better than any 911 in the past 29 years in my opinion.

Originally Posted by javadog

You don’t have a very good eye. First, let’s assume that you understand that one of those red cars is not a Corvette.

After that, take a look at the blue car and the Ferrari. They have the same basic shape and proportion’s, even some of the features like the lower side window line is eerily similar. There are differences in the details, that’s what I’ve been complaining about. GM adds a great deal of unnecessary complexity and none of it makes the basic design better. Some of it is a nod to usability, like the increased ramp angle in the front, but most of it’s just unnecessary, fake complexity for it’s own sake.

For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by javadog

You don’t have a very good eye. First, let’s assume that you understand that one of those red cars is not a Corvette.

After that, take a look at the blue car and the Ferrari. They have the same basic shape and proportion’s, even some of the features like the lower side window line is eerily similar. There are differences in the details, that’s what I’ve been complaining about. GM adds a great deal of unnecessary complexity and none of it makes the basic design better. Some of it is a nod to usability, like the increased ramp angle in the front, but most of it’s just unnecessary, fake complexity for it’s own sake.

For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?

Allright, I'm not familiar with the new Corvette.

There seem to be Acura badges on the wheels, making it a NSX.

Another car I am not very familiar with.

I'm not a fan of pre-production photo's anyway.

I know I love the Lexus LC500, and I know what most here in the forum think of that.

[ramonesfreak]

I have never seen a more blatant attempt by one maker to look like another maker....with the exception of what Hyundai does and well, I try not to look at those

It’s like they traced the outline of the Ferrari

At least corvette based the design on a nice Ferrari design it’s just too bad they went too far

You could see the Ferrari influence in the C7 as well from the side and I liked that until you walk around to the ugly rear and go oh my god what happens here

Originally Posted by Tervuren

Just not seeing the Ferrari/Corvette comparison in that photo.

It shows obvious profile differences in a side by side like that.

Nose area, door area, windshield area, side window area, rear quarter window area, back window area, rear bumper, side door area.

[ramonesfreak]

I’ll give corvette this, they have taken a big step in the right direction and hopefully in 25 years when I’m ready for one (I’ll be 72) they will have the design right 🤪

[HobieMarty]

Goodbye Corvette, Rest In Peace.


I’d rather have a 1970 big block Stingray with T-tops, pop out rear window, factory side exhaust, manual transmission, ROUND tail lights, and ROUND steering wheel than that cobbled together piece of crap. If you’re gonna make a mid engined car, at least make the engine something worth looking at, it is under glass for all to see ya know. I guess GM didn’t learn anything from the Fiero.


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[javadog]

Originally Posted by HobieMarty

Goodbye Corvette, Rest In Peace.


I’d rather have a 1970 big block Stingray with T-tops, pop out rear window, factory side exhaust, manual transmission, ROUND tail lights, and ROUND steering wheel than that cobbled together piece of crap. If you’re gonna make a mid engined car, at least make the engine something worth looking at, it is under glass for all to see ya know. I guess GM didn’t learn anything from the Fiero.


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I’ve actually thought about buying a 70’s Corvette, throwing away the drivetrain and putting some obnoxious crate motor and a modern five speed in it.

[ErVikingo]

I applaud them for the effort. However, I think it should have been a different car altogether, a Halo car "Stingray"and would have left the Corvette to continue. the opportunity to go upmarket and make it exclusive.

The styling looks like they took all the good from the new NSX, the Ferraris, added a bit of the other supercars put it all in a blender and puked it out. Then tagged on a Camaro back on it and bingo, we have the car.

It has some nice angles and some angles that are hideous (IMHO). The dual trunks is a very cool feature missed on the aforementioned vehicles.

The interior finally starts to look different from that on my Chevy truck!

On the positive side, its relatively cheap (starting as I'm sure by the time you opt for the performance packages you will be > $100K) and it provides plenty for the "tuners" to come up with new nose and tail treatment to make it a good looking car.

Then the next problem will be there will be one on each corner with only the connoisseurs being able to tell the highly optioned one from the base model ((like the 911s of late).

The important question, would I buy one? Don't think so, would I like to test one, Yes Please! The only way I would get one would be after securing a body kit for it.

ZA Duntov must be smiling somewhere knowing that they finally went mid Engine.

[Ryan_Cunningham]

Originally Posted by javadog

For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?

Cues from a modern, twin engine fighter aircraft. And it probably helps with cooling a little, don’t you think?

[javadog]

Originally Posted by Ryan_Cunningham

Cues from a modern, twin engine fighter aircraft. And it probably helps with cooling a little, don’t you think?

Yes, I always want to drive around in a fighter jet with no wings.

Intakes that large on the sides only make sense if the radiators are side mounted, like the 1980s Ferrari testarossa. If that is the case, then they don’t need the intake grills at the front of the car.

GM is famous for doing stupid things like that. Compare the front end of the Corvette and the Ferrari. You’ll notice the Corvette has a greater ramp angle at the bottom, to aid in practicality. We wouldn’t want to scrape the front getting into a driveway, or going over a speedbump. But wait! They also include a feature where you can push a button and raise the front end for more clearance. So that design feature really isn’t needed, GM just threw it in because they like to **** up the design. It has no functional purpose.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak

Let’s say I win mega millions tonight and can buy anything I want so long as it’s modern:

I’ll say first - I don’t love anything new out there. If forced to, I would probably try to locate a Ford GT. A black one like Leno’s

I would also order a 992 with manual and all available options

Maybe a Koenigsegg One

Ferrari has lost me unfortunately. Their modern interiors are no better looking than this Vette though likely feel much better. New lambos interiors are awful looking while their exteriors are growing on me the more I see on the road and they continue to sound amazing

The problem with corvettes for me is there’s always something about them I hate, usually it’s the rear end or interior

I’ll admit they are fun. My dad has had a few and I’ve driven them. I like being behind the wheel of them...there’s something there I can’t describe. Maybe it’s the small cabin with the long wide hood not sure

Koenigsegg anything or Porsche GT_, depending upon the actual jackpot. If the CGT is considered modern, I might even go for one of those even though it's not the fastest or coolest out there today.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by ian c2

Bang for buck they allways seemed great .
If you could afford the bill at an English petrol station

As it is right now , for a pure bang for buck comparison go to porsche.com and spec your middy .....................

You'd be surprised, I've got an '08 Boxster S. I think you'd have to work pretty hard for me to get 26 mpg on the highway in it, most of the time, it's more like 23.5 mpg. I had a coworker that had a corvette a few years ago, and because of the huge low end torque and transmission that would put him at super low rpm on the highway, he was getting over 30 mpg on the highway.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by ian c2

There’s a guy at work selling a late 70s vette , has been for the last 4-5 years so I heard .
Wants 4-5k for it .

The problem is , he wears his shirts unbuttoned to the waist and gold necklaces and rings .
I’m not sure I could pull off the complete look as I’m only 50 .

Plus, those are the worst of the bunch and have less power than most modern, hot 4 cylinders from today.

I think the lowest powered corvette since the 1950s was the 1980 or 1981 California model with a 305. they came in at 180hp. I think the 350 ci cars all had at least 200hp.

[Nickshu]

I'm pretty excited to see how the C8R does at LeMans. The C7R guys have had to work really hard to keep up the past couple years, they have done well for what they are driving. C8R might be able to put them on the podium in their class in a couple years.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by masraum

I think the lowest powered corvette since the 1950s was the 1980 or 1981 California model with a 305. they came in at 180hp. I think the 350 ci cars all had at least 200hp.

Nope... quite a few of the late 1970s Corvettes were under 200hp. The low point was 1975, at 165. The late 70s L82 was quite frisky, by comparison.

[masraum]

This should make it easier





To me, they look about as much alike as most mid-engined sports cars. Pointy in the front, not in the back, rear wheels set way back, low front end, etc.... I think that's mostly driven by packaging, aero and what's in style.

Fortunately, Porsche's mid engined cars look a little different.

[Ryan_Cunningham]

Originally Posted by javadog

Yes, I always want to drive around in a fighter jet with no wings.

Intakes that large on the sides only make sense if the radiators are side mounted, like the 1980s Ferrari testarossa. If that is the case, then they don’t need the intake grills at the front of the car.

GM is famous for doing stupid things like that. Compare the front end of the Corvette and the Ferrari. You’ll notice the Corvette has a greater ramp angle at the bottom, to aid in practicality. We wouldn’t want to scrape the front getting into a driveway, or going over a speedbump. But wait! They also include a feature where you can push a button and raise the front end for more clearance. So that design feature really isn’t needed, GM just threw it in because they like to **** up the design. It has no functional purpose.

I believe the car has six radiators, so I'm sure it's more form following function than vice versa. Also, I'm sure they "just threw it in to **** up the design."

You don't like it, that's fine but show me another car even close to the price range that looks decent and offers a similar level of performance.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by javadog

You don’t have a very good eye. First, let’s assume that you understand that one of those red cars is not a Corvette.

After that, take a look at the blue car and the Ferrari. They have the same basic shape and proportion’s, even some of the features like the lower side window line is eerily similar. There are differences in the details, that’s what I’ve been complaining about. GM adds a great deal of unnecessary complexity and none of it makes the basic design better. Some of it is a nod to usability, like the increased ramp angle in the front, but most of it’s just unnecessary, fake complexity for it’s own sake.

For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?

Trying to keep things exciting enough for the folks that want their car to look tough/macho/cool? I'm sure that some of these things are functional. The Porsche GTx cars have a lot going on, but I'm sure that all of it is functional.

"two huge side intakes" - to get a bunch of air for cooling and internal combustion? It is mid engined, and it's running a pretty big lump back there.

The Acura also has huge intakes on the side (and so do most Lamborghinis, McLarens, Boxster/Cayman, )

[masraum]

Originally Posted by javadog

Yes, I always want to drive around in a fighter jet with no wings.

Intakes that large on the sides only make sense if the radiators are side mounted, like the 1980s Ferrari testarossa. If that is the case, then they don’t need the intake grills at the front of the car.

GM is famous for doing stupid things like that. Compare the front end of the Corvette and the Ferrari. You’ll notice the Corvette has a greater ramp angle at the bottom, to aid in practicality. We wouldn’t want to scrape the front getting into a driveway, or going over a speedbump. But wait! They also include a feature where you can push a button and raise the front end for more clearance. So that design feature really isn’t needed, GM just threw it in because they like to **** up the design. It has no functional purpose.

Don't forget brake cooling, oil cooling, transmission cooling...

Is the front end lift standard or an option?

[javadog]

Originally Posted by masraum

Don't forget brake cooling, oil cooling, transmission cooling...

Is the front end lift standard or an option?

Hey, you forgot A/C cooling. Probably the most important thing to the average 75-year-old Corvette owner.

I don’t know about the option list, all I know is that it’s available .

[ErVikingo]

Another mid engine for comparison.