Woodworking and carpentry thread

[Crowbob]

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[Zeke]

Excellent! That is a complicated design. Now will you be adding hips? If you have trouble laying them out you can always use CAD (cardboard aided design). Place your to be pattern in position and use a long stick resting on the existing rafters horizontally and trace both sides to see if they match.

You probably are way ahead of me. I'd like to build a smaller, shorter version of that. I'm subscribed.

[Crowbob]

Thank you, Zeke!

I’m using OSB for templates. Lightweight but rigid enough to lay ‘em up right on the structure itself for ‘adjustments’. For some reason every single one of my squares isn’t. Damn tools!

The hips will be a challenge. The drape requires The seat cuts on the birdsmouths to be incrementally one inch shallower from the center rafters to the hips which makes the Height Above Plate (HAP) one inch greater for each birdsmouth. That, of course, changes the plumb cuts at the ridge. I’m not concerned about the rafter tails yet until they’re all up. Normally, one would simply snap a line and cut the tails plumb. However, I’m thinking I might make the length of the rafters shorter at the corners (hips). If I do, the rafter slopes will be curved, the eves draped AND not linear but rather elliptical as viewed from above. We’ll see.

The way I do stuff makes me impatient. I used to tell people I see things that aren’t there. By that I mean I visualize the entire project, painting, tree, story or whatever in addition to each phase of it’s execution so that the whole thing, whatever it is, ends up being a process of making my idea into reality. The whole time I get increasingly anxious to compare the thing to what I have already seen in my mind. It’s a burden.

The difference between a dreamer and an artist is that the artist ends up with something.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Well Steve, your incomplete quoting me seems to be a bit out of context, but I'm good. The point is that few people are left that will trust a contractor to do them right and leave them to it. The worst are the skeptics that don't know what they are talking about. Ask Jeff, he knows for sure. We have several other contractors here. I think Rocket builds new homes.

Speaking of new homes, I once subbed quite a bit for a spec custom home builder. Early in his career he designed and built a beautiful home and sold it before construction was finished. Now that it was bought the new owner got involved and turned the whole thing into a nightmare.

That contractor vowed to never sell an unfinished home and if he built a house under contract it was strictly T&M. I mean they would set a budget based on the approved plans and he could and would stick to the budget until the first change order. Then all agreements as to price went out the window. Which happened every time.

Oh, I completely understand where you're coming from. I, obviously, haven't had to deal with folks as a contractor, but I was in customer service of various sorts for years, so I understand that folks are morons but think they are geniuses.

Originally Posted by Crowbob

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Wow, very nice! I am loving watching the progress and can't wait to see the finished product!

[Zeke]

Well said. I too visualize quite well. I sometimes struggle a bit with colors but that is easily remedied. At least I have a general idea.

Yeah, I have seldom done shop drawings and yet build things like a portable band saw stand on the fly.

The bird's mouth is deeper on a hip. But it looks like the drape works in your favor there. I'd have to study this more to see what the ramifications are for the ellipse at the rafter edge line. Could make for some interesting cuts on the roof material. The idea of a lath kind of sub roof appeals to me if you shingle it. I think I might go nuts trying to do plywood. Actually I did do that once boxing in the overhang on a Japanese style house. It was what they wanted so you do it. It took way more time than you'd think.

It's been awhile since I laid out a roof or stairs. Probably come back if the need arose. I certainly wish I had been there at the beginning of some layouts I have seen.

[wdfifteen]

[QUOTE=Zeke;12567311I mean they would set a budget based on the approved plans and he could and would stick to the budget until the first change order. Then all agreements as to price went out the window. Which happened every time.[/QUOTE]

Ha! I have a friend who is a custom home builder. He bought a boat and named it “Change Order,” because that’s what paid for it.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

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This is an amazing project. Skill and attention to detail is impressive.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

ha! I have a friend who is a custom home builder. He bought a boat and named it “change order,” because that’s what paid for it.

lol!

[TimT]

I was cleaning out a closet and found a nib 8" celestion greenback speaker... I have no recollection of buying it...

I had some oak veneer plywood scraps and other oak odds and ends.. I picked up some cane.. and now have a vintage looking Mesa-Boogie mini speaker..

I use my cnc router to drill the locating dowels, and magnet holders....rather than lay everything out by hand, I did it on a pc, then mirrored the pattern so everything matches... then flipped the frame and routed for the cane spline..I have some gun oil leftover from another project for the finish..

[MBAtarga]

I just posted on the thread about laser engraving, but here is a photo of some labels I'm using on a cabinet for tool storage using my new laser.

[masraum]

That's pretty darn cool. So the laser cut the wood, cut the holes for the screws and burned the text into the labels?

[TimT]

How many watt laser? I have a small Creality laser engraver with a 1.6W laser, It can cut 1/8ply but takes a few passes..

I'm thinking of getting a laser for my full sized CNC router


A few coasters I made while learning how to use the engraver..

[masraum]

Originally Posted by TimT

How many watt laser? I have a small Creality laser engraver with a 1.6W laser, It can cut 1/8ply but takes a few passes..

I'm thinking of getting a laser for my full sized CNC router


A few coasters I made while learning how to use the engraver..

It's a bigun! (almost 40x yours)

Per his post in the other thread

Originally Posted by MBAtarga

I just brought home a Glowforge Pro 60W laser that my niece's company no longer needed! She bought it about 5 years ago and it was rarely used - it didn't meet their needs for the quantity that they were planning to produce with it.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by TimT

Have you ever tried laser-ing an image onto the cane that you used to cover your little mini speaker? Steal Your Face would look pretty cool on that!

[MBAtarga]

This is the model I got below - which made me realize it's "only" 45W - not 60W. I've got a buddy that has a 60W of a different brand and I was talking with him yesterday - and the 60 number was still stuck in my head. Also included was the fume extractor (fan) which filters the fumes from the laser cutter - otherwise the exhaust has to be routed outside the building. The "Pro" version allows the substrate material to be passed through the printer (with manual intervention) which allows a much larger printing surface.

Depending on the laser output power and the speed of the head/carriage, the beam will either engrave the surface by heating/burning the subject - or will actually cut through the product completely.