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look 171 03-18-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11264820)
Has that happened? I've seen or heard nothing about that (thank goodness).

I think most attackers were black and a few hispanics

Esel Mann 03-18-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 11264592)
Keep calling it "China-Virus Kung-Flu" etc. and you are part of what is happening here.

Lol, you need to get out more. I and everyone in my circle uses one catchy form or another. For example I often call it covfefe-19 or the Wuhan-express.
While totally pissed at the CCP, there is zero hate towards any Asian, be they m'urican, or not. That would be totally crazy, kinda like the level of cray thinking that anyone using a catchy phrase is part of what is happening.

RANDY P 03-18-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11264698)
Asian people will just pull out a pistol and shoot you in the face. I hope they stop this before it gets ugly.

True story. A few years ago my uncle Tony got into an altercation with two punks at the local Casino in Tacoma, WA

-They followed him and his wife all the way to their BMW, and kept harassing him, then kicked his car.

Tony pulled out a gun, the punks stood tall like he wasn't going to shoot- then my uncle fired. They both started running and my uncle actually chased 'em down, found one hiding in a bush and shot the kid in the shoulder.

He actually got away with it since the punks skipped court so it got dismissed. He did almost a year in jail tho.

EDIT: Oh $*** he shot both of 'em. I thought it was just one.

https://www.auburn-reporter.com/news/renton-man-suspected-of-casino-shooting-charged-with-two-counts-of-first-degree-assault/

rjp

masraum 03-18-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11264849)
True story. A few years ago my uncle Tony got into an altercation with two punks at the local Casino in Tacoma, WA

-They followed him and his wife all the way to their BMW, and kept harassing him, then kicked his car.

Tony pulled out a gun, the punks stood tall like he wasn't going to shoot- then my uncle fired. They both started running and my uncle actually chased 'em down, found one hiding in a bush and shot the kid in the shoulder.

He actually got away with it since the punks skipped court so it got dismissed. He did almost a year in jail tho.

EDIT: Oh $*** he shot both of 'em. I thought it was just one.

https://www.auburn-reporter.com/news/renton-man-suspected-of-casino-shooting-charged-with-two-counts-of-first-degree-assault/

rjp

Wow, your uncle needs help, and should probably not be carrying. Year in jail, but case dismissed? How's that work? He couldn't make bail and it took a year for the case to go to court?

RANDY P 03-18-2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11264881)
Wow, your uncle needs help, and should probably not be carrying. Year in jail, but case dismissed? How's that work? He couldn't make bail and it took a year for the case to go to court?

Guess the guys were non-responsive. As for the rest, don't threaten elderly old Asian guys.

rjp

rusnak 03-18-2021 01:56 PM

^ Randy P. That is what I'm talking about. I know how my friends and fam think. And my Native American "family", just forget about it. They'll gladly do the jail time.

RANDY P 03-18-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11264889)
^ Randy P. That is what I'm talking about. I know how my friends and fam think. And my Native American "family", just forget about it. They'll gladly do the jail time.

Yep, in the PI that sort of response is common. Uncle Tony won't go back to the PI, I guess he did in an influential politician's kid way back in the day.

Another true story: another uncle in LV who was getting tailgated by a redneck in a truck at a local supermarket parking lot and when he parked the other guy came out and confronted him calling him names

He said "Hold on a sec, let me get my gun"- then walked back to the trunk and pulled out a pistol. I guess the guy saw that and ran into the store, while my other uncle stood outside saying "hold on, I only want to talk to you!"

rusnak 03-18-2021 02:26 PM

They just don't believe in a benevolent god. One of them is going to go after the attacker eventually. I hope not. I really hope not, but it has the potential to get ugly.

gsxrken 03-18-2021 03:20 PM

I find it a little too much to believe that there is concerted bias attacks on Asians (because of covid, I guess is the working assumption) anymore than any other nationality. There’s probably some nut job that hates [pick a country] in every city.
Certainly there are horrible sub-humans preying on people everyday. There are over 1.2M visits to the ER due to assault and nearly 20,000 murders. So it’s ****show out there for sure. But for some reason the MSM has recently taken to tallying how many of them are Asian and now there’s “a war on Asians”? I’m just not buying it.

Won 03-18-2021 03:20 PM

All this, and now after the latest shooting in Atlanta, my sister showed me all the concerned messages from her friends along the line of "be careful when out alone and check in every day". It's hard to believe we're having this conversation in 2021. She lives in Manhattan but is currently in South Carolina. She's lived all over the world like me, and isn't the type to let fear dictate her life. But it feels somewhat more justified than simple paranoia/abundance of caution (whatever you like to call it) right now.

masraum 03-18-2021 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxrken (Post 11264984)
I find it a little too much to believe that there is concerted bias attacks on Asians (because of covid, I guess is the working assumption) anymore than any other nationality. There’s probably some nut job that hates [pick a country] in every city.
Certainly there are horrible sub-humans preying on people everyday. There are over 1.2M visits to the ER due to assault and nearly 20,000 murders. So it’s ****show out there for sure. But for some reason the MSM has recently taken to tallying how many of them are Asian and now there’s “a war on Asians”? I’m just not buying it.

I have no idea how valid any of this info is, but...

https://www.voanews.com/usa/race-america/hate-crimes-targeting-asian-americans-spiked-150-major-us-cities

https://im-media.voltron.voanews.com...019-2020_0.png

Won 03-18-2021 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxrken (Post 11264984)
I find it a little too much to believe that there is concerted bias attacks on Asians (because of covid, I guess is the working assumption) anymore than any other nationality. There’s probably some nut job that hates [pick a country] in every city.
Certainly there are horrible sub-humans preying on people everyday. There are over 1.2M visits to the ER due to assault and nearly 20,000 murders. So it’s ****show out there for sure. But for some reason the MSM has recently taken to tallying how many of them are Asian and now there’s “a war on Asians”? I’m just not buying it.

This is for the UK:

"In February alone, police data revealed that 64 incidents of racist hate crimes against “Oriental” victims were recorded, more than twice the number in the previous year (29). In March, this rose to 101, nearly three times as more than in March 2019 and 2018."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-racism-hate-crime-south-east-asians-b1770177.html

look 171 03-18-2021 03:32 PM

I find this to be a very typical behavior for the uneducated American way of thinking. With every major events in the past, there's always the targeted group. WW2 with the Japanese. We wanted to lock up the Iranians back in the 80s, after 911, many of the middle eastern looking folks ( Indians are totally different people were victims) were attacked and crapped on by many dumb asses. I believe the reason attacks are more of a copy cat crime that are targeted Asian elders. The chicken siht part is the attack on the old. Some of them are in their 70s, WTF?

wdfifteen 03-18-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 11264592)
Keep calling it "China-Virus Kung-Flu" etc. and you are part of what is happening here.

Even if you aren't serious there are people who are influenced by it. So yeah, no matter what your motivations, if you are saying that you are part of the problem.

Won 03-18-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11265010)
Even if you aren't serious there are people who are influenced by it. So yeah, no matter what your motivations, if you are saying that you are part of the problem.

Thank you. Sadly I have people around me who still joke about the "China virus". It's not them I worry about.

Baz 03-18-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11265010)
Even if you aren't serious there are people who are influenced by it. So yeah, no matter what your motivations, if you are saying that you are part of the problem.

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Originally Posted by Won (Post 11265016)
Thank you. Sadly I have people around me who still joke about the "China virus". It's not them I worry about.

So who are these people are are influenced by something someone says?

They are those without a moral compass, obviously.

For anyone interested in how to help mitigate stuff like this - there's a lot to discuss.

But if one puts their focus on why the world is divided into two groups: those with and those without a moral compass....I think that's legitimate discussion that is not happening, as far as I can see.

Why do I have a moral compass?

I feel it is because of how my parents brought me up.

Not everyone is lucky to have what I had. Two good parents.

So where does that discussion take us?

Think of how better the world would be if more folks had a moral compass.

How do we get there and why are we not discussing this instead of all the other stuff that serves more as a distraction?

Get to the root......ignore the distractions.

It's like the old shell game......

Won 03-18-2021 03:59 PM

I agree with you. Someone mentioned earlier the mental issues also. But how do we sell the idea of these deeper conversations to the society? How can you and I make a difference? The mainstream media don't seem to care.

onewhippedpuppy 03-18-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Won (Post 11265016)
Thank you. Sadly I have people around me who still joke about the "China virus". It's not them I worry about.

Speaking of blind hatred.....

Btw, it came from China. That doesn’t have a damn thing to do with this thread. Take your BS to PARF.

rfuerst911sc 03-18-2021 04:08 PM

I agree with Baz , a moral compass or lack of is the problem . It is the basics of being taught right from wrong and carrying that throughout your life . There is a big difference between having children and being a parent . Having children is just mechanical , being a parent is a full time job . Teaching/nurturing/reinforcing the positive and communication with your kids is critical . If they get on the wrong path it's hard to reel them back .

rusnak 03-18-2021 04:13 PM

Researchers who study viruses have known about flu strains coming out of China for decades. The fact that it came from China is not novel. The fact that it appears as if the Chinese gvt had something to do with it is where I think some people are conflating their facts and blaming ordinary people who have nothing to do with how it started. We've been whipsawed between the media pumping it up, making it appear to be more lethal than it is, and the government irrational response and overreaction. No wonder folks are just lashing out at easy targets. In a way you can hardly blame them for reaching a breaking point. It's just as irrational to say "snap out of it" now. We've got to get back to a sense of normalcy and push to get the economy going again.


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