water conserving tips?

[Tobra]

I am in the process of switching from grass to more of a native plant, xeriscape yard. Something that takes minimal water, and does not need mowing.


That and fruit trees

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Noah930

We've done that in California, too. (Have you read the Mulholland thread here on PPOT?) But the population of the entire state of OK is 4 million people, and OK City about 650K.

The population of LA County is about 8 or 9 million people, and the state of CA 45 million.

The metro area of OKC, which encapsulates several smaller cities and covers over well 1,000 square miles is just over a million population. Cities like Nichols Hills, Warr Acres, Bethany, The Village, and many more are surrounded by OKC and they just buy the water from OKC. Yea, the OKC itself population is most but not all of the population. Yea, California has a problem with that many people, and it is mostly a desert. Relying on rain runoff and snow melt ain't gonna hack it for a desert environment. Different cities and different needs.

NYC is lucky with the water sources it has. They still had to spend some major money to get a heck of a lot of water to the city.

OKC has plenty of water for the foreseeable future. And we already have the next lake planned, and the land is already purchased.

[thor66]

check out where the water goes in California

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by thor66

check out where the water goes in California

It goes out to the ocean, because the imbeciles who run the state say the Orcas way out in the Pacific Ocean would like to swim through a cloud of our river discharge water.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Noah930

We've done that in California, too. (Have you read the Mulholland thread here on PPOT?) But the population of the entire state of OK is 4 million people, and OK City about 650K.

The population of LA County is about 8 or 9 million people, and the state of CA 45 million.

And I suspect OK gets more rain than much/most of CA.

[gtc]

Buy some water jugs and fill them up at work every day.

[thor66]

Originally Posted by rusnak

It goes out to the ocean, because the imbeciles who run the state say the Orcas way out in the Pacific Ocean would like to swim through a cloud of our river discharge water.

where did they say that? gimme a link I'll run it down


but I meant how much goes to ag. - 30 to 40% depending on how you count it

IIRC, a bit over 10% goes to urban uses

[cabmandone]

Buy a large sheet of plastic, drive up into the mountains, fill with snow, snow melts on the drive back, BOOM free water.

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by gtc

Buy some water jugs and fill them up at work every day.

Or buy beer and put it through one of those evaporation water purifiers. And Hey, presto, fresh water.

[Tobra]

The water is for the snail darters and delta smelt, not the orcas or the humans.

Originally Posted by masraum

And I suspect OK gets more rain than much/most of CA.

Depends on where you are talking about, Southern California, probably yes, Northern California probably no

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by thor66

where did they say that? gimme a link I'll run it down


but I meant how much goes to ag. - 30 to 40% depending on how you count it

IIRC, a bit over 10% goes to urban uses

Sorry but you're kind of stupid. Why don't you google the LA aqueduct. The CVP supplies cities, including sewage treatment. Your 30-40% number is something that city folk in El Cerrito or Hayward like to toss out there on internet chat or write nonchalantly on neighborhood forums while never really knowing what they're talking about.

[thor66]

Sorry but you're kind of stupid. Why don't you read this?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Or buy beer and put it through one of those evaporation water purifiers. And Hey, presto, fresh water.

How dare you sir!?

[drcoastline]

Oops, spent the whole day washing down my office driveway. Sorry, I wasted everything you all conserved, but hey it's a wash, thanks

[cabmandone]

^^^
May the birds of paradise sh.t rainbows upon your driveway and cars...

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by thor66

Sorry but you're kind of stupid. Why don't you read this?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California

OK dumbass, the PPIC is cited as the source for your little "Wikipedia" blog (really ??) that makes you some sort of Internet Expert.

But even in that article, the following uses are defined for the past two decades:

Environmental uses (meaning water that is flushed out to the ocean, for salmon and Shamoo the Whale): 38.3 Million Acre Feet.

Urban uses, excluding urban recharge basins: 7.9 MAF

Agriculture: 31 MAF


Summary:

Enviro: 38.3 MAF - 49.61%
Urban: 7.9 MAF = 10.23%
Ag: 31 MAF = 40.16 %

In wet years, the percentage that goes out to the ocean can equal over 60% of all water consumed in California, meaning that it IS NOT SAVED FOR DRY YEARS !

THAT IS WHAT THE DEMS IN CALFORNIA DO. THEY FLUSH THE WATER OUT TO THE OCEAN RATHER THAN SAVE IT FOR DROUGHT YEARS.

This is my earlier point.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I am in the process of switching from grass to more of a native plant, xeriscape yard. Something that takes minimal water, and does not need mowing.

I never understood the CA water conservation thing.
People were arrested for watering their lawns at dusk, while the golf courses down the street remained pristine and bottling companies sucked aquifers dry.
Rain barrels with pond storing and reusing water on site should be encouraged as they also support local natural habitat.
Property rights should extent to the heavens above.

Some people converted their yards to natural succulents and then their HOA's fined them heavily.
Or the city did, for having dry grass as a result of following the law.
Or having natural healthy grass too long. Or something else.
There was just too much mixed-messaging.

Quantum of Solace could have been a documentary about Ecuador.
The big players are investing in water rights as we speak.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Ecuador
"In general, water service quality is low in Ecuador. Water supply services are interrupted in 50% of the urban areas. Water pressure is well below standard, particularly in poor outlying areas. In 30% of the urban areas, there is no treatment of drinking water. 92% of wastewater is discharged without any kind of treatment."

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by john70t

I never understood the CA water conservation thing.
People were arrested for watering their lawns at dusk, while the golf courses down the street remained pristine and bottling companies sucked aquifers dry.
Rain barrels with pond storing and reusing water on site should be encouraged as they also support local natural habitat.
Property rights should extent to the heavens above.

Some people converted their yards to natural succulents and then their HOA's fined them heavily.
Or the city did, for having dry grass as a result of following the law.
Or having natural healthy grass too long. Or something else.
There was just too much mixed-messaging.

Quantum of Solace could have been a documentary about Ecuador.
The big players are investing in water rights as we speak.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Ecuador
"In general, water service quality is low in Ecuador. Water supply services are interrupted in 50% of the urban areas. Water pressure is well below standard, particularly in poor outlying areas. In 30% of the urban areas, there is no treatment of drinking water. 92% of wastewater is discharged without any kind of treatment."

It's actually much worse in Calfornia. The air quality control board will fine you if you have blowing dust on your property. If you put water down to control the dust, the flood control district will fine you if the water drains into the city gutter because in their definition you are polluting the discharge basins. And if the water that you put down to control dust causes weeds to grow, then the cities will fine you for having weeds and if you till the weeds under, then the air quality board will be back for creating dust again.

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by cabmando

How dare you sir!?

Sorry. Not one of my best

OK, I'll try again...

Send everyone home from Southern California who shouldn't be there. then there would be enough water for all.

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by cabmando

^^^
May the birds of paradise sh.t rainbows upon your driveway and cars...

I wish we had birds of paradise, I am sure their sh.t is sweet as icing. But all we have are Seagull, big squirty sh.t filled seagulls. You did it to me know Cab the seagull shi-doo- doo hex. oh this is gonna be bad, really, really bad. Well that's what I get.