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you aren't everyone - if the religious nutballs trying to force their views on others is something you are unaware of, then you need to wake up

and yes, accept that others have different P.O.V.s

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I am not a religious person never have been . I have no issues with anyone if they are or aren't . But in my opinion religion is only a small piece of if a person is " good " or not . If you were raised right with some boundaries/discipline/guidance/encouragement you have a fighting chance of being a positive member of society .

But being raised right just plants the seed , as an individual you have to keep at it on a daily basis . Even though my parents are long gone ( RIP ) I ask myself all the time what would my parents think of my behavior or decisions . In a small way it helps keep me on a good path .

Our society is quick to blame others but usually it's the person in the mirror that is responsible for the issue . Not always but many times . Just my 2 cents keep the change 😁
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Too much " me " and not enough " us " mindset . It seems like simple manners have died. A simple example I was taught to open/hold a door open for anyone behind you . I am amazed at how many individuals won't say a simple thank you . It doesn't stop me from doing it but it's something I notice .

Car turn signals: they are not optional every car/truck has them . Take these simple examples and start casting them outward and you will see the issues get bigger with more impact . I am a firm believer in everything happens for a reason and runs in cycles . I do believe we will get back on track as a nation , but we will need REAL leaders to assist in that . Not talking political leaders as that's a lost cause , I am talking family and community leaders . Grassroots leaders .
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I am not a religious person never have been . I have no issues with anyone if they are or aren't . But in my opinion religion is only a small piece of if a person is " good " or not . If you were raised right with some boundaries/discipline/guidance/encouragement you have a fighting chance of being a positive member of society .

But being raised right just plants the seed , as an individual you have to keep at it on a daily basis . Even though my parents are long gone ( RIP ) I ask myself all the time what would my parents think of my behavior or decisions . In a small way it helps keep me on a good path .

Our society is quick to blame others but usually it's the person in the mirror that is responsible for the issue . Not always but many times . Just my 2 cents keep the change ��
Both of your posts are "spot on", Rick.

And FWIW.....I'm just posting my opinions here. If someone disagrees or has a different take - that's OK.

(I say that as a tribute to my parents who raised me to respect the viewpoint of others).

But having an opinion on the way our culture is in decline shouldn't be considered a personal attack on anyone. It's just commentary by someone looking at the big picture and giving his take.

I'd think maybe a good topic for discussion here - as long as everyone keeps their "micro-aggressions" in check!

And FWIW.......for me as a 67 year old....I think some of this really started in the 60's. It's not a "damn hippie" thing. It's a lot larger. Stuff like adults getting too lazy to put in the work raising the kids proper. Or too self-centered. The concept in society that we just let everything go and be free. When in reality it's the furthest thing from being free possible. Enter the age of the cell phone and Internet. Putting people in jail. They aren't free. They're stuck.

I'm not saying the world is coming to an end or anything. It's just filled with too many selfish lazy adults.

The kids are the ones who need the help. At that young age - they are open books with unwritten chapters....waiting for us adults to help guide them as they write the novels of their lives.
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This is pretty good.......makes a good point......

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Then, in the comments section there's this gem.......

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Nothing works better than respect. If my parents said "turn that off and eat" everyone would do just that with no questions asked. No gimmicks needed. It's a matter of respecting authority.
And there it is.
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Then there's our obesity problem....getting worse every year........

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And THIS video is from TEN years ago.......we we're still getting fatter and fatter!

It's the year 2021 and the future is now. Yet with all the new gadgets and doo-dads......most are designed to make our lives easier. To counter-balance that - emphasis should be on living a healthy lifestyle.

Some say "Work smarter - not harder." I say "Work smarter AND harder."

But that requires work and being thoughtful.

I don't really see as much emphasis in our media (just to name one faction) for "us" to be thoughtful. It's more along the lines of "special effects" and "shock and awe"....as mentioned upstream.

This video has a little political slant to it - sorry. But still makes the point we can't change for the better...even though we KNOW we are screwing up!

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When our kids were growing up, the one thing I tried to implant in them was that first and foremost when they were out in the world their behavior represented our family first. How they acted in public, while at school, out shopping, with friends or on a sports field all reflected on me and my wife first. I let them know that we had certain standards which weren't to be crossed under any circumstances. If they were, there were consequences.
A lot of what I see on TV and witness when out in public is the result of parents not doing their job. IMO there are way too many people having kids that should have no business having kids. They just aren't capable of raising them to be productive contributors to society.
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From the outside looking in; it looks like your culture is worshipping East LA street gangsters. Rap, body language. Dregs of society waving around big wads of cash and guns. That's the guys. The women are fat arsed b1thes with attitude, hanging out wit the before mentioned guys.

Then... In New Zealand our moron classes think that's so cool and copy them all they can. But over do it. We've had a few guys shooting cops then posturing around thinking they are some sort of movie star while a cop dies on the road in front of them.

Sure BLM, but us white guys should be able to live without constantly apologising for our existence.

That's my rant for the day LOL
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When our kids were growing up, the one thing I tried to implant in them was that first and foremost when they were out in the world their behavior represented our family first. How they acted in public, while at school, out shopping, with friends or on a sports field all reflected on me and my wife first. I let them know that we had certain standards which weren't to be crossed under any circumstances. If they were, there were consequences.
A lot of what I see on TV and witness when out in public is the result of parents not doing their job. IMO there are way too many people having kids that should have no business having kids. They just aren't capable of raising them to be productive contributors to society.
Great point and much respect to your parents, Scott. They are/were not alone in their battle against evil.

Parents - and OTHER adults...are charged with this responsibility.

MANY are HARD workers and doing a great job! And we thank them! Doing ALL they can do, in fact!

God bless them!

But as I commented upstream.....too many adults have become lazy and too self-centered to really put their children's well being as JOB #1.

Important point here - parents can NOT do it all. Other ADULTS influence our kids.
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Easy, moving away from morality. Our country is the only civilization formed on the principles of God. That's why up until recently we are the greatest country in the world, in world history. There has been a downward trend from the 1950's ever progressing away from God.
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Sin has always been around. Cain killed Abel... The problem is that what used to be shunned is now applauded. What used to be hidden is now thrown in your face. We glorify perversion and abhorrent behavior that used to be considered unhealthy, unnatural, and/or ungodly. Even if you don't believe in God, if you follow the Judeo-Christian ethics that this country was founded upon you were a better citizen, better friend, better father or mother. The farther we push God away, the more He lets us reap a harvest of our sinful nature.
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And there it is. I rest my case.
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Its the promotion of self that is the root of societies current situation. I'm better than you, my agenda, you listen to me, I'm right, its not my fault. We have been driven away from thinking of others. Remember the golden rule?? Questions kids to day and most would not be able to tell what the gulden rule is. WE can build all the guess's in the world, and while some are plausible, it will all boil down to self over others.
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Oh, FFS. People have been making literally exactly this complaint for thousands of years. There were people just like the OP saying the same thing in Latin in Ancient Rome.
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Sums it up quite nicely!

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Oh, FFS. People have been making literally exactly this complaint for thousands of years. There were people just like the OP saying the same thing in Latin in Ancient Rome.
They were probably onto something too!
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Oh, FFS. People have been making literally exactly this complaint for thousands of years. There were people just like the OP saying the same thing in Latin in Ancient Rome.
And look what happened to Roman civilization...

You might be proving his point.

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Its the promotion of self that is the root of societies current situation.
I would say this is a foundational idea you've mentioned.
However to narrow it down there is promotion of specific aspects.
Namely, feelings and emotions;
Which are more easily manipulated than reason.
A lot of people are becoming the monkeys from the looney toons movie.

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