The vaccine is racist. I want to know where the data came from. But that is just me. BTW, when people got poked in their cars, what level of screening did they go through...height, weight, age, other health issues, etc?

Anyone know? Standard stuff, right?

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Lo cation%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D

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Again, btw, how do they know how many blacks there are in the States if they don't have ID's?

The little things. Numbers.

Here are some more: https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/migrated_legacy_files//200341/vaccination-disparities-brief.pdf

More: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographic

Clearly, a "test" for the vaccine is racist and discriminatory. You Progressives going to move the blacks and Hispanics to the back of the bus, again? Complete elitists:

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What should consequences be for those that decline the vax?

You get Covid.

Once again...it's not only about YOU! Smoking and drinking will, for the most part, only have an impact on your own health. By refusing to get vaccinated, you're putting others at risk too. And if you pass COVID to someone who may already have a compromised immune system and they become seriously ill, then their families and the healthcare workers who treat them are also put at risk.

We all need to work together to get this virus under control so the world can return to some sense of normalcy. This continued whining about one's own personal choices and freedom has no place in this discussion and is getting rather old.

It's a good thing that there wasn't such a backlash against getting the polio or smallpox vaccines back in the day.

Thinking that we'll ever banish Covid with the tools we have available is just stupid and ignores decades of medical wisdom.

Ain't. Going. To. Happen.

Protect the most at-risk, protect yourself to the degree you want.

That's it. Learn to live with it. Heart disease, cancer and a hundred other things are more of a risk to you. Life has risks.

+1
Also, Government entities should not be able to override business decisions regarding the health and safety of customers and employees.

The soft, oblique lighting adds to the soothing look. I’ll bet it looks less inviting with the 500 watt overhead spotlight on.

This chart, I feel you interpret it as the percentages of a given demographic that has received the vaccine?

It breaks down the percentage of those who received the vaccine which a quick spot check of a few states lines up perfectly with each ones representation as a percentage in the given state.

Arizona
White alone, percent 82.6%
Black or African American alone, percent(a) 5.2%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a) 5.3%
Asian alone, percent(a) 3.7%

Arkansas
White: 76.72%
Black or African American: 15.32%
Other race: 2.79%
Two or more races: 2.69%
Asian: 1.52%
Native American: 0.68%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.29%

Idaho
White: 89.97%
Other race: 3.47%
Two or more races: 2.94%
Asian: 1.41%
Native American: 1.35%
Black or African American: 0.69%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.16%

Georgia
White 57.8%
Black or African American 31.9%,
4.1% Asian, 3.0% Some Other Race,
0.4% Native American and Alaskan Native,
0.1% Pacific Islander and
2.7% from two or more races.


Among other things, census. We have them from time to time.

Forgot I wanted to answer this one as well.

My wife, son, myself all got the stick at Texas Motor Speedway.

Was a great experiences. Ran like clockwork with military precision.

In TX we signed up for an appointment with the Dept of Health.

We had to answer all those questions plus some before we could be scheduled.

No one just drove up like it was a pit stop.

From the "Notes" section at the bottom of the page. More individuals state notes are also available.

Percentages are based on total vaccinations for which race/ethnicity is known. Shares of vaccinations in each state may not sum to 100% due to rounding, pending, or missing data. Vaccination data may not be directly comparable due to differences in data reported, reporting periods, racial/ethnic classifications, and/or rates of unknown race/ethnicity. Where states report vaccination data for people of multiple races, we include this data in the Other category. As of 3/15, KFF only reports state-reported unknown race/ethnicity data. If a state does not report the number or share of vaccinations with unknown race/ethnicity, it is reported as NR.

States vary in whether they report total people who have received at least one vaccine dose, people who have received one dose and people who are fully vaccinated, or total vaccinations administered. Where possible, we report data for people who have received at least one vaccine dose. Some states exclude vaccinations administered through the federal long-term care partnership from their data, which affects the demographic profile of people who have received vaccinations.

Persons of Hispanic origin may be of any race. States vary in whether they include or exclude Hispanic individuals in racial categories. States also vary in their racial/ethnic classifications. For example, some states report Asian and Pacific Islander people separately while others report them as a combined group.Total population data has been adjusted to reflect a states’ racial/ethnic classifications for vaccination data

I would want a little more cushioning for my behind.

Hmm if you don't have a car. Ie a lot of people in AZ. You can't get the vaccine. Cars are racist, and so is Lightening McQueen.

Once again classism not racism.

Right, I read that to.

Not sure it really tells us anything we could consider hard data.

It doesn't tell us anything about the percentage of the total population is vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

Just breaks down the vaccinated.

Not even sure classism applies with respect to that chart.

Never will. Census 2020. We should know very well what the populous is per county.

If you need a car to get a vaccine. Think about it. There's a reason why they started mobile covid testing in poor neighborhood.... was not only to justify the lock down.

I'm sure someone/some group will claim the outcome was rigged/stolen.

If the vaccinated can still spread the virus, which I've been hearing they can, why do the vaccinated care about who's unvaccinated?

What about all the people who actually had Covid? Why no wide spread news about secondary infections?

Seems to me, natural antibodies is the way to go.

Why exactly does there need to be "consequences "???


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Yesterday I heard an extemded blurb on NPR on "How to convince others to take The Vax(tm).
It used every emotional trick in the book.
Family relationships, love, pregnant women, and the pure evil selfishness of all those who personally chose not to.
A guest doctor said there are two kinds of resisters: Christians and the old and unaware.
They are trying to break up families as if the draconian government actions weren't enough.
(Maybe turning people on one another was the original plan.)
https://nypost.com/2021/07/27/de-blasio-proclaims-voluntary-phase-is-over-on-covid-vaccines/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9846939/Soldiers-sent-enforce-lockdown-Sydney.html

Ask yourself two questions:
1). What is The Vax?
(Because mRNA manipulation is not a vaccine, despite changing the dictionary to fit the narrative.)

2). Does every manufacturer, Moderna/Pfizer/J&J produce the exact same product?
(Because a cornucopia hodge-podge of spaghetti drugs randomly pumped into the populous will never be "Science")

There is push-back even if you don't hear about it on Media.
Even the USPS Union won't accept vaxxing of its workers:
https://summit.news/2021/07/30/going-postal-american-postal-workers-union-rejects-biden-vaccine-mandate/)

There is a slight problem with claiming that the 60% of un-vaxxed Americans are all "far-right white christian extremists".
That entire NPR Media racist tirade which I heard was 'factually wrong', so maybe they should lose their license:
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Legislation by Congress allow the vaccine makers to be exempt from lawsuits, so what recourse do Americans have when this happens?:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pfizer-moderna-jabs-cause-heart-inflammation-some-men-cdc-finds
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-29-fully-vaccinated-medical-worker-both-legs-amputated.html
(there are many many more examples of vaccine deaths and injuries...too much to list in this thread)

Biden's DOJ goes with our new normal totalitarianism, of course:
https://yournews.com/2021/07/27/2189249/covid-1984ever-department-of-justice-declares-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-legal/

Except everything happening right now is highly illegal:
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/news/2021/02/23/federal-law-prevents-mandatory-vaccines-developed-under-emergency-use-authorization-but-employers-schools-are-mandating-anyway/

There should be consequences for medical fraud by health officials and practitioners: They should lose their license and pension.

There should be consequences for mass murder: Especially for Governors deliberately putting Covid patients into nursing homes.

There should be consequences for Media outlets spreading racist insinuations, promoting domestic terrorism, and spreading fraudulent medical information as proven fact instead of believed facts: Lose their FCC license.

Because we give a **** about those who remain unvaccinated because they are either not eligible or not candidates through no fault of their own.

It's not all about us.

the 1% of 1%. And how is being vaccinated helping them if you can still spread it?

I have begun to care less. I wish they weren’t clogging up hospitals and forcing non-emergency hospital procedures to be postponed, but I’m not losing sleep over it. You can lead a horse to water etc….

Pink Floyd - Us and Them

If you are 'vaxxed' and protected and now secure henceforth, good for you.
The vax works. Congratulations.

That is where your rights end in regards to me.

well they seem to think it gives them power over other's..
they did as told..
so should we..
I got a corrective collar for my dog when he got uppity..
guess I need to watch out for that..

Rika

I find your post and your other similar posts here to be excellent. Remember when Dreyfus ripped his gas mask off in Close Encounters? You remind me of that scene.

Keep it up….

So let’s talk about what the right means when it talks about “freedom.” Since the pandemic began, many conservatives have insisted that actions to limit the death toll — social distancing, wearing a mask and now getting vaccinated — should be matters of personal choice. Does that position make any sense?
Well, driving drunk is also a personal choice. But almost everyone understands that it’s a personal choice that endangers others; 97 percent of the public considers driving while impaired by alcohol a serious problem. Why don’t we have the same kind of unanimity on refusing to get vaccinated, a choice that helps perpetuate the pandemic and puts others at risk?
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Continue reading the main story
True, many people doubt the science; the link between vaccine refusal and Covid deaths is every bit as real as the link between D.U.I. and traffic deaths, but is less obvious to the naked eye. But why are people on the right so receptive to misinformation on this subject, and so angry about efforts to set the record straight?
My answer is that when people on the right talk about “freedom” what they actually mean is closer to “defense of privilege” — specifically the right of certain people (generally white male Christians) to do whatever they want.
Not incidentally, if you go back to the roots of modern conservatism, you find people like Barry Goldwater defending the right of businesses to discriminate against Black Americans. In the name of freedom, of course. A lot, though not all, of the recent panic about “cancel culture” is about protecting the right of powerful men to mistreat women. And so on.
Once you understand that the rhetoric of freedom is actually about privilege, things that look on the surface like gross inconsistency and hypocrisy start to make sense.
Why, for example, are conservatives so insistent on the right of businesses to make their own decisions, free from regulation — but quick to stop them from denying service to customers who refuse to wear masks or show proof of vaccination? Why is the autonomy of local school districts a fundamental principle — unless they want to require masks or teach America’s racial history? It’s all about whose privilege is being protected.
Krugman

It’s all about Big Government. In the cases in this article it’s Big Government conservatives trying to impose their will on the citizenry. It is the reason for acquiring power - so you can force others to submit to your will.

These are the only Krugman blurbs anyone needs to read to understand..

I won't go further, other than note the obtuse when you read between his lines.
His hatred of the White Race is right there.

I don't think there should be mandated consequences for those refusing to be poked, and on the surface I likewise do not think it should be my responsibility to protect the unpoked from my poked self by wearing a mask in their presence, but if doing so lightens the burden that the unpoked will possibly place on the healthcare system and their family and friends possibly affected, then I'm okay with begrudgingly doing my mask part. It doesn't look like that will be an issue here in TexASS as I think the gov signed an executive order forbidding schools and businesses from requiring masks (not sure what I will do if some places I go to "strongly suggest" wearing them - will probably comply to keep the peace, as that shiit is of no significant inconvenience to me, although I do not like wearing them in public and doubt their effectiveness).

In case you guys missed it, I am talking about the government mandating vaccinations. Businesses request you be vaccinated. It is kind of a big difference, and NONE of the conservatives are talking about the government telling businesses what to do. It is not that complicated, try and follow along


Glad I made it anonymous. Wow, we have some straight up fascists here.

Rational and reasonable is not on the menu.
Poll not exactly binary, but pretty much.

You are not all that reluctant to impose punitive measures. You are saying the government should mandate it, except for people who are unable to take the vaccine.

Who gets to decide who is unable?

What is next?


Should be, but we have government mandates right now.

If wishes were fishes, nobody ever goes hungry.

There will be consequences

GD terrifying

Neither of which were investigational drugs when given to millions.

The government has done this since before you were born, and you are old.
Would not trouble you for long
So the same as the COVID 19 numbers.

Of course, but if rational approach was the game, we would have tested for antibodies prior to the jab, or at the very least not given it to people who already were proven cases.


Sort of stupid the way we did it, really stupid.

I like the idea of privilege. It speaks to ones rights. It’s my privilege to stay healthy and avoid putting unapproved chemicals into my body for something that’s 99% recoverable. No government can take that privilege away...

It’s another’s privilege to get the vax. Or stay inside and whine about others exercising their own privilege.

Life goes on...

Do I give a flying **** if someone's informed decision ends in a dirt nap for them? No, I don't. We tried to talk to them. They made their choice. Not gonna lose a wink of sleep.

Does leaning towards mandatory vaccinations make me a Fascist? We can argue that all day long and never see eye to eye and I don't give a flying **** about that either.

Who you should be asking is the families of those 600,000 and those still to come. I think their opinion has more merit than ours.

This and take a greater risk of dying from Covid.

Really? What cave are you in? https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-desantis-cruise-ship-lawsuit-20210802-2thqqae42vcjvcsyp7ddxvklqu-story.html

I say old chap, should horse whip the blighters.

Wow, a lot of psychos really want to come down hard on "Blacks" and "Hispanics"

Sounds racist too me. :cool:

Tobra's next topics...

What should consequences be for those who own guns?

What should consequences be for those who are pro procreation?

What should consequences be for those who think for themselves? -that one really pisses off the Karens.

the freedom to pay their own medical bills

Technically, no, not what to do. But DeSantis in Florida has told schools, counties, municipalities, and businesses what they may NOT do, which amounts to the same thing.