They came legally, Ace.

I called myself out? What are you, 22?

I’ll tell you what, Bob, let me see if I can help you out here. Perhaps you’ve heard that correlation is not causation. A fairly self-explanatory statement, perhaps you’ve heard it before.

Maybe conservative people support Trump for the same reason they look skeptically at the vaccine. Maybe they think for themselves, as opposed to blindly trusting others. I happen to believe that liberals are more inclined to believe whatever bull**** you throw their direction, thus the success that CNN had during the Trump administration. There wasn’t a more unreliable news network on television, they literally made **** up that they knew was not true, but their audience bought it hook line and sinker, every day for years.

I have learned that you can’t believe much of anything that the media puts forth. The situation is the same with the government, I don’t believe for a New York minute anything that the CDC puts out, without questioning it first. Liberals seem to eat that up.

Liberals are also far more terrified of Covid than conservatives. That’s because they don’t think, they just buy the bull****.

Think hard Bob, you’ll get there.

Nope.

We should do what Trump did when the CDC said CV-19 was a threat, unlike Biden, Pelosi and KH.

One more time: Seal the border, restrict travel into the US from specific countries, investigate immune responses in depth for those that already have had CV-19 (like me) and provide blood testing for free.

I have to travel to Morocco in November and need proof of a CV negative test 72 hours in advance. Same leaving the country. Why not insist on that here?

Next, find a way for the Rev. Sharptons of the world to make an impact on lagging Black vaccinations.

That is just the start.

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They brought quite a few diseases and killed off a significant chunk of the indigenous population, as a result. Vaccines did not exist and medicine wasn’t advanced enough to be even remotely useful.

Here’s the point. Our government makes a lot of noise and puts forth all sorts of policies to temper the Covid pandemic. It’s when presented with the information that they are making it vastly worse because of their lack of border controls, they go radio silent, because the immigration is beneficial to them in that it guarantees them future Democrat votes, which is more important than protecting the public.

As it turns out, all they are interested in is more power and more control, and one of those things (immigration) will give them more power and the other thing (policies related to Covid) will give them more control.

They don’t give a **** about you, or me, that’s your first mistake.

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Get a grip man...

Mandatory vaccination.
Vaccine passports to go out in public. Maybe even a mark on your hand or your forehead to prove you are vaccinated.
Those who get sick can be useful for experimental treatments for the future.
Ban group gatherings unless approved the the government.

You can call it "the final solution".

Bad memory or reading skills? Either way, you implicated yourself as one of those "dumbasses"The fact is that it has become a partisan issue. "The really ignorant part is the fact that Trump was largely responsible for facilitating the rapid development of these vaccines and he is vaccinated. Yet, most liberals think that if you supported Trump, you’re more likely to resist a vaccine because of that.

These dumbasses can’t think, even for a minute.

Well, of course they did. Mayflower?

Smugness my foot. Purely transactional. We pay you to serve and protect- us and yourselves. Being the white shirt pencil pusher you claim to be, tell me how you are protecting your minions without requiring about the most simple piece of the protection puzzle there is? Would you cover their workmans comp claim if they didn't wear all the PPE on a medical call. How about letting them go into a fire without their bunkers or on air? Lets see you truthfully fill out claim form where the first thing they ask is whether or not you took all available precautions. Building consensus on a life safety issue? What a joke your fire scenes must look like.
Act like a leader instead of letting your political BS take over.

Do you want to distill that into a cogent point, or two? You’re all over the map on this one.

Why, exactly, am I dumbass?

It would keep the inferior folks from potentially getting gravely ill.

Sure. " Yet, most liberals think that if you supported Trump, you’re more likely to resist a vaccine because of that. These dumbasses can’t think, even for a minute." Clearly it's a partisan issue that you have failed to think about "even for a minute"

Tough day at the office Bob?

LOL.

rjp

No one should be forced to take the the vaccine. Instead, those that refuse the vaccine should be on strict house arrest with ankle monitors and stiff fines leading up to incarceration for violations. These people are a threat to public health and safety of the community. They are acting like toddlers and need to be treated as such.

You keep quoting yourself, for some reason…

Which side of this argument are you on?

There may be a broad correlation between vaccination rates and political parties but if you break it down, it doesn’t hold. There may be more Democrats that are vaccinated and Republicans, but significant factions of the Democrat party are among the most resistant to vaccination.

Then there’s the chicken or the egg question. Are Republicans less vaccinated simply because they are Republicans, or are they more conservative in nature and that’s what’s driving the lower vaccination rates? The fact that they are Republican is irrelevant, it has to do with their conservative nature.

I see no reason to make vaccination mandatory or impose any "punishment" for not being vaccinated or not wearing a useless diaper on one's face. If they really wanted to prevent the spread of COVID (or other diseases), they would stop importing unvaccinated illegals and shipping them all over the nation without knowing who they are or if they are healthy. In fact, they would gather up as many as they could find and ship them back to their origin.

On my wife's side, the Ark and the Dove.

My side were Spanish, 1800's into California.

Father was Scottish, second gen from a family off the boat in the late 1800's.

You?

well that sounds like a plantation owner.. ..
bet you keep the beotches in a separate shack wouldn't you..
nothin like little white trash before supper..

Rika

So you idjuts are advocating to the camps and a badge to get out and work a menial labor job?

What is your NAZI serial number? I hear it can be passed down by generation.

So, you are for a border wall?

Welcome aboard!

You're given an ipod with all of Obama's speeches on it and you have to listen to them all in their entirety. You have to pass a test once you've listened to them all and you need to get at least an 85% or you have to listen to them all again.

I think there was a Night Gallery episode where a person sent to (Christian) hell was forced to sit in a senior couples house and watch their vacation photo slides for eternity.

So Cab cannot criticize the article/author you posted because he doesn't have the required education, but you are capable of questioning the CDC......What background of yours supports that?

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated

You ... must ... comply



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Pay attention. When the CDC says one thing, then later on changes their guidance to something diametrically opposed to the first position, you have to wonder why. When they get caught fudging the numbers, ask yourself if that hurt their credibility. Later, when they are tracking some numbers that start to trend away from the administration’s preferred narrative, then they decide out of the blue to quit tracking those numbers, ask yourself with their purpose might be.

Anybody that pays attention can figure those things out.

Go to your room with a .45......figure it out.

That does not change your lack of ability to question the better educated on the subject. Or maybe your point to cab was absolute bunk. Hmmmm, I wonder.

So now you resort to insults because Im not in agreement?? . Dbag move....

Again. It has zero to do with politics. Not every decision in life is "political".

First of all I'm not paid. I'm a volunteer. As a chief, I fall under the towns Board of Fire Commissioners they would make any "vax" call. Not me. They have already stated they have no plans of a mandate. None of the other paid depts around here are issuing mandates.

"Whiteshirt pencil pusher" Far, far, far from it... I'm a hands on, in the trenches officer. Probably one of the most highly respected chiefs in my county. I'm also a high ranking field officer on the state usar/FEMA team.

"My scenes must be a joke"..... For a moment, I'll drop down to your level and tell you to GFYS


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lol Vinny..
as I told ya long ago...
sooner or later one of us will look down at them..
so..
when he's crying and dying
just offer him a mask...

Rika

I agree Vin, he is a Dbag and I doubt will respond to you.

My guess is a good part of my family crossed from Europe into Canada and then south to the states- probably not all legally. Immigrants are our greatest assets and given dire enough situations where they come from will do anything to get here.
We tend to forget that the vast majority came as refugees. Virtually everyone that came through Ellis Island was. https://www.history.com/topics/immigration/ellis-island

Wow.... This vid on mob psychosis may help us understand some of the extreme comments here.



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I don't "tend to forget" anything. I know exactly who and where I came from. Never heard of the Ark and Dove, right?

What you have forgotten are your manners. Go find them. I have the utmost respect for Vinnie. We have never met but I know him, know who and what he is.

I'll stand by that.

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my Ark....:D

Rika

Got any rebuttal for my comments regarding the CDC, or do you want to fiddle **** around with bull****?

The hammer came down at my work. Get vaccinated or get out.

One of mine:

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Ohh, I wanna get in on this.

Mom's side of the family, all from Switzerland and Germany and except for me, my brother, my mother they are all still there.

My Fathers side all came here legally coupla hundred years ago.

No one really knows from where though, it wasn't actually voluntary.

In fact the exact opposite of voluntary but it was legal so I guess that made it ok?

Just because something is legal does not make it fair, moral, ethical, or right.

Flip side of that, not all things that are not legal are wrong.

The legality of a thing gets codified by a given societies morals and ethics which can and do change over time generally for the better but sadly often enough not.

My general approach when confronted with these issues is to ask if it's fair, moral, ethical, and I worry about the legality last because when it conflicts with the first part, IMHO, it's time to change the legality of the thing.

Both sides of mine came over from near Stuttgart about 60-70 years before there even was a USA. I "think" the USA just "took" a couple of thousand acres from one of them after the traitors won :D

What King George giveth .... Pres George taketh ;)