Vaccines are moving the needle...

[island911]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

From COVID. Based on the context of your post.

Oh, yet you wrote "suffer side effects."

Diseases have effects... Vaccines and medicine have so called side effects(sometimes "other effects") , to differentiate from the primary goal of the vaccine/drug.

[island911]

Hey Steve, Do you think all healthy people don't get sick, suffer side effects, or die from vaccine reactions? Please cite a credible resource.

See. That's how that works.

[RWebb]

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by island911

Oh, yet you wrote "suffer side effects."

Diseases have effects... Vaccines and medicine have so called side effects(sometimes "other effects") , to differentiate from the primary goal of the vaccine/drug.

People suffer side effects from getting COVID- did you know that? Loss of taste, brain fog, etc. Here's a credible link for you. Let me know if you need more.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351#:~:text=Older%20people%20and%20people%20w ith,.%20Shortness%20of%20breath.

Originally Posted by island911

Hey Steve, Do you think all healthy people don't get sick, suffer side effects, or die from vaccine reactions? Please cite a credible resource.

See. That's how that works.

Did I ever say there were no adverse side effects from the vaccine? I did not, but since you asked, here's a link for you to read. You'll discover the side affects are rare, and usually treatable. Worth the risk, and if you dig deeper, you'll discover that the side effects are not necessarily caused by the vaccine, they just would have happened anyway. There's a certain instance of rare disorders that are coincidence, not cause and effect:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html#:~:text=Reports%20of%20death%20after%2 0COVID,COVID%2D19%20vaccine.

I've asked you several times what you think and what you base that reasoning on, and you haven't answered once. Not once. I suspect you're a facebook zombie, or get your information from known biased sources. You spew out garbage as if it's fact, and when asked, back it up with nothing.

This is how you work.

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

The Pfizer vaccine is now fully approved by the FDA.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/23/health/fda-approval-pfizer-covid-vaccine/index.html

Fake News, Fake News!!! You are "fully" incorrect. Appears folks are not reading the FDA documents.

Reading is fundamental (RIF)

The Pfizer -BioNTech COVID-19 MRNA "vaccine" is FDA approved for EU only. It received an extension of its existing EU only. A new Pfizer MRNA vaccine (its actually the old vaccine just a different label and possible dosing) was also approved for kiddies 12 through 15 years was also added (BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH for trade name COMIRNATY) to the emergency use list of approvals. Comirnaty vaccine has not even been released yet.



Here is the link direct to the FDA.
For Immediate Release:
August 23, 2021

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine


FDA timeline and documentation:

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/comirnaty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine



MSN is now a runaway train with this.

[Steve Carlton]

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hail

Fake News, Fake News!!! You are "fully" incorrect. Appears folks are not reading the FDA documents.

Reading is fundamental (RIF)

The Pfizer -BioNTech COVID-19 MRNA "vaccine" is FDA approved for EU only. It received an extension of its existing EU only. A new Pfizer MRNA vaccine (its actually the old vaccine just a different label and possible dosing) was also approved for kiddies 12 through 15 years was also added (BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH for trade name COMIRNATY) to the emergency use list of approvals. Comirnaty vaccine has not even been released yet.



Here is the link direct to the FDA.
For Immediate Release:
August 23, 2021

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine


FDA timeline and documentation:

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/comirnaty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine



MSN is now a runaway train with this.

It is still under EUA for those age 12 to 15. For those 12 to 15 the EUA vaccine is "Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine". For those 16 and older the full authorization is for "COMIRNATY'.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an Emergency Use
Authorization (EUA) to permit the emergency use of the unapproved product,
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, for active immunization to prevent
COVID-19 in individuals 12 years of age and older and to provide a third dose
to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been determined to have
certain kinds of immunocompromise.

COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is an FDA-approved COVID-19
vaccine made by Pfizer for BioNTech. It is approved as a 2-dose series for the
prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older and is also
authorized for emergency use in individuals 12 through 15 years and to
provide a third dose to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been
determined to have certain kinds of immunocompromise.

[Tobra]

Package insert is supposed to list known adverse effects. Apparently pericarditis is the only adverse effect. Thank goodness it can't cause any other problems

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I heard someone is trying to figure out how to create a class action lawsuit against the unvaccinated. Obviously pretty tricky and impossible to identify who isn't except by subtraction, but HIPAA, so probably isn't going to go very far.

Impossible to identify? All you have to do is look at the list of jabbed and arrest everyone not on the list. Simple


Mass psychosis is a heck of a thing. I wonder if all y'all can get over it

[hbueno]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

People suffer side effects from getting COVID- did you know that? Loss of taste, brain fog, etc. Here's a credible link for you. Let me know if you need more.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351#:~:text=Older%20people%20and%20people%20w ith,.%20Shortness%20of%20breath.



Did I ever say there were no adverse side effects from the vaccine? I did not, but since you asked, here's a link for you to read. You'll discover the side affects are rare, and usually treatable. Worth the risk, and if you dig deeper, you'll discover that the side effects are not necessarily caused by the vaccine, they just would have happened anyway. There's a certain instance of rare disorders that are coincidence, not cause and effect:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html#:~:text=Reports%20of%20death%20after%2 0COVID,COVID%2D19%20vaccine.

I've asked you several times what you think and what you base that reasoning on, and you haven't answered once. Not once. I suspect you're a facebook zombie, or get your information from known biased sources. You spew out garbage as if it's fact, and when asked, back it up with nothing.

This is how you work.

Valiant effort but you are wasting your time. This type of Internet forum inhabitant is not really here for a discussion. He's just here for the "lulz" (as the kids say these days).

[Tobra]

Facebook zombie? If he were that, he would hold the opposite opinion

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Package insert is supposed to list known adverse effects. Apparently pericarditis is the only adverse effect. Thank goodness it can't cause any other problems

More misinformation from Tobra
Package insert info

5 WARNINGS AND PRECAUTIONS
5.1 Management of Acute Allergic Reactions
Appropriate medical treatment used to manage immediate allergic reactions must be immediately available in the event an acute anaphylactic reaction occurs following administration of COMIRNATY.
5.2 Myocarditis and Pericarditis
Postmarketing data demonstrate increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly within 7 days following the second dose. The observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age than among females and older males. The observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age. Although some cases required intensive care support, available data from short-term follow-up suggest that most individuals have had resolution of symptoms with conservative management. Information is not yet available about potential long￾term sequelae. The CDC has published considerations related to myocarditis and pericarditis after vaccination, including for vaccination of individuals with a history of myocarditis or pericarditis
(https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/myocarditis.html).
5.3 Syncope
Syncope (fainting) may occur in association with administration of injectable vaccines, including
COMIRNATY. Procedures should be in place to avoid injury from fainting.
5.4 Altered Immunocompetence
Immunocompromised persons, including individuals receiving immunosuppressant therapy, may have a diminished immune response to the COMIRNATY.
5.5 Limitation of Effectiveness
COMIRNATY may not protect all vaccine recipients.
6 ADVERSE REACTIONS
In clinical studies, the most commonly reported (≥10%) adverse reactions in participants 16 through 55 years of age following any dose were pain at the injection site (88.6%), fatigue (70.1%), headache (64.9%), muscle pain (45.5%), chills (41.5%), joint pain (27.5%), fever (17.8%), and injection site swelling (10.6%).
In clinical studies, the most commonly reported (≥10%) adverse reactions in participants 56 years of age and older following any dose were pain at the injection site (78.2%), fatigue (56.9%), headache, (45.9%), muscle pain (32.5%), chills (24.8%), joint pain (21.5%), injection site swelling (11.8%), fever (11.5%), and injection site redness (10.4%).

[cabmandone]

Info about the J&J booster.... I might have to look into "mixing" since I got the Moderna vaccine earlier. It seems the J&J antibodies aren't falling off like they're seeing in Moderna and Pfizer.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/second-dose-of-j-and-j-vaccine-gives-strong-boost-company-reports/ar-AANJ3BL?li=BBnb7Kz

[beepbeep]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

I know several people who got the vaccine and didn't get sick or die.

Ha! That's what They (TM) want you to think!

My neighbours Yoga teacher read on Facebook that you will attract non-mangetic metals and that Bill Gates will track you with 5G after you get one!

[cabmandone]

^^^
That's all true! I turned on my GPS and "You are here" popped right up on my screen. How did they know?? Curse you Bill Gates!

[speeder]

The people complaining about carrying around a 5G chip from Bill Gates need to be informed that they are already carrying it around.

You can't fix stupid.

[thor66]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/26/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-covid-cases/?itid=hp-top-table-main

[Steve Carlton]

Second Annual Superspreader Rally!

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Second Annual Superspreader Rally!

Second only to a certain Presidential b-day party.

[Steve Carlton]

Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?

[mdj930]

https://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-airventure-news-and-multimedia/eaa-airventure-news/eaa-airventure-oshkosh/08-03-2021-eaa-airventure-oshkosh-2021-facts-and-figures-for-an-outstanding-year

600,000 people not a super spreader but a week later Sturgis is a super spreader. Got it. I guess I need more CNN and MSNBC so I can understand super spreader gathering's better.
Mike