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Pog looked terrible at the cool-down. I think he might have been on the verge of a bonk when he got caught by Jonas. Misjudged his calories at the end? Hard to imagine in this day and age.
Flatbutt, the riders can fill their pockets and eat whenever they want or need but for safety the areas to be handed a musette full of goodies are limited. The trash zones are a fairly recent change. |
Oh man Bilbao out due to illness.
Poor ol' Roglich. But Girmay! Formidable! |
AGEN, France (AP) — Primoz Roglic has withdrawn from the Tour de France ahead of the 13th stage a day after he got caught in a crash, his team said Friday.
Roglic lost more than two minutes to his rivals Thursday after hitting the tarmac 12 kilometers from the finish line when a rider ahead of him struck road furniture and lost control of his bike. It was the second accident in 24 hours for Roglic, a four-time Grand Tour champion. He got back on his bike but struggled at the back and was helped to the stage finish by his Bora-Hansgrohe teammates. He crossed 2 minutes, 27 seconds after the winner and dropped to sixth place overall. “Primoz Roglic underwent careful examination by our medical team after yesterday’s stage and again this morning. The decision has been taken that he will not start today, to focus on upcoming goals,” his team said in a statement. “We wish you a speedy recovery Primoz.” https://apnews.com/article/cycling-tour-de-france-roglic-da2c24cf1f3a86f4a20a39ebcc13e22f Some discussions on the crash incident this morning. More to come..... |
I thought you guys would find how the mountain categories are calc'd interesting:
Slope calculation formula of tour de France ((Average slope (%))^(3/2)* Altitude climb (m))/100 Grade 4≦20 20 < grade 3 ≦50 50 < grade 2 ≦120 120 < grade 1 ≦200 Grade HC > 200 Calculate with an average slope of 5% and a total climb of 1200 meters above sea level, which is:5^(3/2)*1200/100=134. 134 is between 120 and 200, it belongs to grade 1, then we can conclude that the difficulty rating of the climb is grade 1. |
Report claiming that Evenepoel is going to Red Bull Bora Hansesomething. https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/a-deal-between-remco-evenepoel-and-red-bull-bora-hansgrohe-imminent-according-to-reports
We’ll see, but sort of makes sense. Roglic is in the wane of his career, Evenepoel is in the start of his, Red Bull wouldn’t have come on board as majority owner of the team without an incoming star rider, and Red Bull would give the team the budget to sign that star. Notice that Evenepoel never has any teammates when it gets tough? While Roglic sometimes does? Moving to RBH would be an upgrade in support and presumably a big salary increase. |
Good day of racing today!
The Col du Tourmalet, the Hourquette d’Ancizan, and lastly the end of the race being the awesome HC at Pla D’Adet. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1720876104.jpg Overall (Yellow Jersey) 1. Tadej Pogacar (SLO) -- 52:40:58 2. Remco Evenepoel (BEL) -- +1:06 3. Jonas Vingegaard (DEN) -- +1:14 4. Joao Almeida (POR) -- +4:20 5. Carlos Rodriguez (ESP) -- +4:40 6. Mikel Landa (ESP) -- +5:38 7. Adam Yates (GBR) -- +6:59 8. Giulio Ciccone (ITA) -- +7:36 9. Derek Gee (CAN) — +7:54 10. Matteo Jorgenson (USA) -- +8:56 13. Egan Bernal (COL) -- +10:18 17. Jai Hindley (AUS) -- +19:25 27. Geraint Thomas (GBR) -- +37:12 31. Richard Carapaz (ECU) -- +47:57 Sprinters (Green Jersey) 1. Biniam Girmay (ERI) -- 346 points 2. Jasper Philipsen (BEL) -- 271 3. Anthony Turgis (FRA) -- 141 4. Jonas Abrahamsen (NOR) -- 133 5. Bryan Coquard (FRA) — 127 Climbers (Polka-Dot Jersey) 1. Tadej Pogacar (SLO) -- 36 points 2. Jonas Abrahamsen (NOR) -- 36 3. Jonas Vingegaard (DEN) -- 28 4. Remco Evenepoel (BEL) -- 18 5. Valentin Madouas (FRA) -- 16 Young Riders (White Jersey) 1. Remco Evenepoel (BEL) -- 52:42:04 2. Carlos Rodriguez (ESP) -- +3:34 3. Matteo Jorgenson (USA) -- +7:50 4. Santiago Buitrago (COL) -- +8:35 5. Ben Healy (IRL) -- +11:02 |
Massive win for TP!
AY with great teamwork, as well. More suffering tomorrow! :D |
I think in this Tour, Pogacar can climb faster than Vingegaard for a limited time, then Vingegaard catches up. That is based on the two mountain duels so far, although Pogacar arguably wasn’t fueled enough for the 30 km effort the other day. So what does Vingegaard do? He doesn’t seem to have the climbing domestiques to rival UAE, without Kuss, so his chances of isolating Pogacar like in the 2023 Tour aren’t good. If Vingegaard attacks solo from a long way out, to use his endurance advantage (if there even is one), Pogacar will probably go with him even if that means leaving his men behind. If he distances Pogacar, the latter can wait for his men and then try to mountain train back to Vingegaard. Still, it’s a chance?
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Pogacar has had trouble at altitude before, including the 7 minute loss last year. So don’t count Visma and Vingegaard totally out.
If Pogacar wins the Tour and looks as strong at the end as he does now, I really hope he pushes his limits and rides the Vuelta. No rider has ever won all three GTs in one year. Not even Merckx. |
There's a YouTube video of Cav barely making the cutoff today (stage 15) He looked terrible, almost human. I want him to win one more TdF stage before he retires. Maybe the finalé? He's doing what I hoped Sagan would have done, but Peter just fizzled out and made us almost forget how great he was in his prime.
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Pogo KILLED it today!
This is what you want to see from an eventual victor....domination! |
I'm kind of sad that unless something unusual happens (and it could) the TdF is mostly a foregone conclusion; I was hoping to see a weeklong mano-y-mano duel thru the Alps.
Visma is missing Sepp Kuss in a big way. My opinion. The team looks like they were 3/4 strength today and Mateo is a rented mule right now. He looked dejected and deflated in the post race interview. Tomorrows rest day will be needed by all the teams.. (This is from someone who has been rooting all race for Pogacar.) |
Anything can happen....but I think it's over
In 48 hours Pog went from 1:14 lead and losing a stage to Vinny to TWO consecutive stage wins and almost tripling his lead. And the last 4 miles today was an ass whipping. I was hoping it would last longer but all Pog needs to do now is just stay close |
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I wonder which team has the worst placing for their best rider and what would happen if they tried to do a break away with their entire team?
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Pogacar looked great while Vingegaard looked gassed, head hanging, and at the end he started losing time at an accelerating rate - at 3 km Pogacar had 30 sec, at 2 km 40 sec, at 1 km 50 sec, then at 0 km 68 sec. If there had been a few more km I think it could have been 2 minutes.
Is the GC over? Vingegaard was expected to get better as the race went on, but it’s not clearly happening, and should it? In 2023 when it was Pogacar who went into the Tour with inadequate preparation due to his crash in LBL, he didn’t get better in the later stages. Vingegaard is supposed to be better at altitude and we’re headed to the Alps, but with a weaker team can he put 3 min into Pogacar? Ok, Pogacar could bonk or get Covid - it’s really decimating the peleton! - or crash or have a mechanical. I’m rooting for Pogacar but I hope Vingegaard digs deep and keeps it interesting. |
When he attacked on Pla d’Adet (stage 14), Pogacar’s max speed was 35 kmh and his one minute average speed was 27 kmh. This is on a 9% grade.
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A lady crossing in front of Gachinard, the most exciting moment of this stage so far. :Dhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1721143243.jpg
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“Don’t tell my nutritionist,” Pogacar said of his rest‑day ride, “but we stopped at the bakery, and I had one of the best brownies I’ve ever eaten in my life.”
Brownies are unlikely to be the secret of his success, and after winning both summit finishes in the *Pyrenees, at Pla d’Adet on Saturday and Plateau de Beille a day later, the Slovenian now looks almost out of reach to his closest rival, Jonas *Vingegaard, of Visma Lease-a-bike. Pogacar leads by more than three minutes. “I think we all witnessed one of the best performances on the climb ever,” he said of his win at Plateau de Beille. “When I checked my [power] *numbers after, they were really crazy, the highest numbers I have ever done in my career.” Pogacar acknowledged, however, that Vingegaard and his team had done their utmost to take back time. “They showed balls, finally, and hit hard. Hats off to them.” https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jul/15/tadej-pogacar-describes-stage-win-as-one-of-best-performances-on-climb-ever |
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