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Old 11-23-2025, 09:31 AM
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That Micky Mouse show after the winner's interview was something that can only happen in Vegas.
I heard that it was pre-recorded. Someone/influencer posted there was none of that in real life last night post-race.
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Old 11-23-2025, 09:38 AM
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F1 in the wet is simply incredible. Watching them negotiate the 14 to 16 complex was consistently mind blowing. Hearing the traction control searching for grip was fascinating.

Had my first recovery with the Hausmann car in the Academy race. Good adrenaline it was.
In pouring rain, with standing water, on extreme wets, they were still running 20 seconds per lap faster than the little girls in the academy league were doing in the dry the day before.

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Lando and Oscar Piastri both diisqualifiied . Yikes.
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I may be mistaken but I think its 1.12mm of wear. If I'm reading correctly, the rules allow for 1mm of wear. The plank is 10mm thick, and needs to measure 9mm at post-race.

This is going to be a long week for Zak, et al.
The Racer article I read was obviously incorrect. I wondered how in the world could teams be held to a standard of 10ths of a mm on a wear item
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I saw a post on Reddit showing Lando’s car/skidplate still sparking on the last lap indicating McLaren had set it up to low. It sucks for them, but 8 other drivers’ cars passed.

I am not sure why they didn’t have Hamilton start from the pit lane with a full dry setup or new power plant. Although he was able to pass the turn 1 carnage and make it from 20th to 13th.
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Imagine being DQed for 0.00468", or just over the valve lash setting of a 911. Some may conclude that the FIA/F1/Liberty are juicing the show to keep the eyes (and the $ € ¥ £) on the last two races.

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It would be interesting to see how they measure that wear. A simple grain of sand could change the measurement.
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Are there any Max Verstappen fans here? Seems like this group is team McLaren.
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Are there any Max Verstappen fans here? Seems like this group is team McLaren.
I enjoy watching Max race , he is very talented . I was a fan of Michael Schumacher also . Very similar drivers . Both had/have the ability to take a car that is less than perfect and get everything out of it as possible . I respect that .
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Also a Max fan here. And just to clarify and reading the info from McLaren, they were DQ'd for the 0.12mm number. They were 0.12mm below the minimum 9mm thickness. So the plank wore 1.12mm total from its original 10mm thickness. A crazy thin amount that would appear to be meaningless - but rules are rules.

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Are there any Max Verstappen fans here? Seems like this group is team McLaren.
Nope and nope.

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Also a Max fan here. And just to clarify and reading the info from McLaren, they were DQ'd for the 0.12mm number. They were 0.12mm below the minimum 9mm thickness. So the plank wore 1.12mm total from its original 10mm thickness. A crazy thin amount that would appear to be meaningless - but rules are rules.

McLaren continues to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
This is F1, so every little advantage matters. I suspect Captain has a story or ten about seemingly minor differences that generate improvements on the track.
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This seems like a NASCAR yellow just before the end of the race
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Since the inception of the plank rule, I wonder how many winning cars have satisfied the inspection with a full 10mm of plank.

The FIA don't make that information very easy to find...
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Numbers are numbers. Limits are limits. They had the option of setting the car up just that fraction of a millimeter higher. No sympathy whatsoever. Pretty amateurish mistake for that level of racing.

And no, the FIA are not "putting their thumb on the scale", they are not "throwing a debris caution". Those measurements are made available to all of the other teams. Whaddaya think Toto woulda said if the FIA said "meh, it's only .12mm. Close enough"?
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It would be interesting to see how they measure that wear. A simple grain of sand could change the measurement.
Oooh. That just gets all of my rusty old GD&T bits tingling! "Thickness" as a point measure? Against what datum?

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In a briefing, the FIA explained the gauge used, (Mitytoyo, purchased new in 2025), and here's an overview of the procedure.

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That is how much Lando Norris's plank was worn down over the maximum about of wear. 0.12 mm. Disqualified from the race.
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On a related topic, when teams hand in the required one liter of fuel at the end of the race to test compliance), how much under the liter can they be before the car is disqualified?

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