Any information about the Pacific Palisades Fire

[GH85Carrera]

With luck, they can find the moron drone operator and have him face the appropriate laws violations, and he is 100% responsible for thee damage to the airplane. He for sure needs some major public shaming.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by jyl

In the Angeles, a lot on East Fork. In San Berdoo, a lot on Deep and Bear Creek. Mountain biking in the Verdugo Hills. Hiking and camping, skiing. That area is amazing.

MTB off LaTuna? I don't MTB but I have done it in the very beginning and it sucked. Its me, not the trails. I kept falling.

I always like San Berdoo better, a bit more wild. Did lots up there, almost bought a place in Arrowhead when the kids were small. Angeles Crest is my back yard, grew up at the end of the 2 fwy in LA. Lots to do up there. Now, everyone and their mother is up there. Still, all one needed to do it to take a walk for 30 min, then the crowd disappears. I like the area up neat Waterman or Buckhorn. Far enough away from everyone high enough for the air to feel fresh.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

Not at all.. Well sometimes, but not often... What I miss is my 4000Sqft block home with real tiles on the roof anb a 5 car garage, which cost exactly 1/2 as much as my current 2000 Sqft popsicle stick california place ;-) But yeah, the weather, topography and diversity of everything in CA is much appreciated. Sucks we can't build blocks here though.

Yea you can but why?

[astrochex]

A picture of the damage to the super scooper

[look 171]

Originally Posted by NY65912

My heart goes out to all affected. Lived through 911 and hurricane Sandy, but this is truly a disaster of monumental proportion.

Can anyone tell me if Manhattan Beach is threatened? I can't get hold of a friend.

Just drove back from my place in Torrance which is about 15 min from Manhattan. All are safe there.

[look 171]

My friend was the DA and volunteer with a partner to help patrol on and near the burned area up in Altadena. He told me they had to chase out a bunch of nosy people plus, they busted about 4 vans driving around the closed off area looking to loot. Two of my riding friend has their placed looted, cleaned out and they left the faucet on to try and flood the place. The people they caught spoke no English, no IDs, and spoke with a Nicaraguan accent. The claim they were trying to support firefighters with all of their two bottles of water sitting in the empty van. All were young men in their early 20s. Talk about BS. They had to let them go.

[speeder]

If I catch any looters, they are going to wish that the cops get them. I'll zip tie them and throw them in the fire.

[Rot 911]

I’m surprised they don’t already have the California national guard up there patrolling to keep our looters.

[speeder]

That reservoir would have helped but would not have changed the outcome much. And they know why it was offline.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Rot 911

I’m surprised they don’t already have the California national guard up there patrolling to keep our looters.

Once the fire is put out, everyone can return to the evacuation zones and go back to their homes. The ones that burned don't have much to loot, unless someone is into collecting ashes. This was an incinerator.

[varmint]

Originally Posted by speeder

That reservoir would have helped but would not have changed the outcome much. And they know why it was offline.

The story in most disasters,

Thing A would have helped but it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.
Thing B would have helped but it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.
Thing C would have helped but it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.
And so on.

All those little failures could have added up to something that would have made a difference. There’s going to be a lot of blame to go around when this is done.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by speeder

If I catch any looters, they are going to wish that the cops get them. I'll zip tie them and throw them in the fire.

That’s too kind. Also the drone operator who interfered with firefighting operations should be aggressively sought out and changed with a felony. No excuse for that BS.

[speeder]

I was in the evacuation zone last night in Santa Monica, all the way down to San Vicente and Ocean ave. trying to check on my friend’s house in the canyon. It was extremely dark and smoky with lots of people with guns and badges, hardly anyone else. I’m not going to say impossible but it would be very difficult for a burglar to get in and out of the zone. They were on heavy patrol, looking at everyone. It looks like a war zone. There is basically no one in there but cops.

[speeder]

For history buffs, the last time that there was anything remotely close to this was the famous Bel Air fire in 1961. I never thought there would be another but this one is so much worse.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bel+air+fire+1961&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Rot 911

I’m surprised they don’t already have the California national guard up there patrolling to keep our looters.

What, respond appropriately to a natural disaster, or heaven forfend prepare ahead of time. It is notlike this is news to anyone this was going to happen. Criminal negligence, cut and dry. They were draining the reservoir 9 months before the had a bid to repair the cover

Pretty ridiculous assertion to claim that 20 times more water would not have made a difference. I could see if Santa Ynez were at a lower elevation than Pacific Palisades but it is not.

Basically, it is like a water tower with 117 million gallons in it.

Totally makes sense that would not help with a fire

[speeder]

It would have been a help for a while until it ran out. No one is saying differently. Would it have put out a raging wildfire in 70mph winds that was growing by thousands of acres an hour? No fking way. The problem was and is all logistics…the fire is burning through forests currently on its way to more houses with all of the available resources in the world on it.

The first 24 hours, they could not fly any aircraft because of the wind gusts. Urban fire departments, even in Los Angeles, are not designed for fighting forest fires. There are other organizations, like Cal Fire, that are and are fighting it now. Planes, pilots and personnel are now here from all over the world fighting these fires and the fire is still winning at this time.

There was no shortage of pumping pressure in the beginning of the fire when it was in the Palisades Highlands and they might have had their only chance to stop it. Quit repeating BS from whack sources.

[speeder]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEn68VgyMRi/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

[speeder]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEoXejdRxxy/?igsh=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==

[HobieMarty]

Originally Posted by look 171

She will be fine. I am up in the hills near there. All of the brush and pine needles blown around stacked pretty high on the side of all the canyon roads. Thankfully no fire.

And to think they just played a football game at the Rose Bowl, and none of this was going on, then, how quickly things can go south. Prayers for everyone affected by the fires. I find it so crazy that one side of the country is freezing and wet, and the other side is burning up. Crazy world.

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[William930t]

Friday evening: The Palisades Fire is relentless, now edging closer to one of LA's major population centers, the San Fernando Valley. The fire’s northern flank is unfortunately approaching Mulholland Drive in the Santa Monica Mountains. I have been checking YouTube for updates before I go to bed East Coast time. Aerial firefighting crews are seen on some of the YT news feeds doing incredible work trying to halt the northern progress, praying for some containment.

Unbelievable that I am snowed in here in Atlanta while LA area is burning.